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Offline Chevalier Blanc

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2010, 05:15:12 AM »
I think you need to read your history on the Elizabeth Castle Breakwater. If they had of continued from La Collette to where that pier was to go we would be laughing now, all deep water berths for liners and a huge marina. You do have to take in account of the year is was started and look at what they had to do the job with, all that and the tides too. They did a good job which speaks for it's self that it is still there and protecting the main harbour. Take note of the way it is built then look at the new Elizabeth Pier and you will see that they have followed the same way of building.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2010, 06:29:05 AM »
 its slab work i believe, at the back of the powerstation in the70's there was a bunker and the start of a breakwater which is now in the reclamation site, we used to dig bait down there , whitecat like snakes. and lug worm like sausages , something to do with the hot water outlet from the powerstation .
 (wow seems like a life time ago )

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2010, 06:05:04 PM »
One of the problems with St Helier Harbour is not so much the harbour, but the approaches or roads to it, these are littered with rocks which many of the former mail boats can testify they hit, hence the plan for a single long arm into open water. A similar problem with St Catherine's, which could be extended to serve the purpose for small coastal ferries (Sark, Guernsey, & France). 2 million was spent on stabilizing the end perhaps a more elaborate plan should have been implemented, that said the area does not have the shore based facilities and access is not very good for large vehicles such as coaches.

On the tourisim strategy I question the targeting of what must be a small and selective group. What about the people that would like a leisurely and relaxing holiday with good value entertainment and restaurants which is the bedrock of a good tourist destination. I understand the active leisure operators are actually struggling and in some cases giving up. Is there a large number of adrenalin junkies that will see the Island as a place to supply their fix? as has been said surfers are shoulder to shoulder at St Ouen's in the summer.

Must go off for a leisurely recce of Green Island in the shadow of the iconic incinerator.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2010, 02:40:16 PM »
Surely the elderly, tourist or non-tourist, like a leisurely walk in the early evenings.  Considering recent press reports about  violence on our streets this may frighten them away. 

Jersey has to clean up its act before it can present itself as an appealing resort again.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2010, 04:51:25 PM »
And reconfirm a health arrangement with the UK . It is expensive enough to get here without having to acquire additional health insurance.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2010, 09:05:22 PM »
For sure. Because basically you might need it if you get clobberd by a pissed up chav on the weighbridge on you way back to your hotel after a meal with the family at the Royal Yacht Hotel.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2010, 12:23:08 AM »
Aint nobody bringing their family bud, we should just accept that we have nothing to offer , close down the pretentious "farm" sack all the staff at the Castles , forts and move on .
Private enterprise is the only way forward , that means that people with money( not ours ) will provide services that tourists want , obviously none of the foregoing bears any relation to the £50 million we spend through heritage , tourism and sundry other useless quangoes which actually do us a dis-service.
The question is this ..........how far do we have to go down black hole economics until the morons in charge , go ,,,,,,,,Hey! we could make some money out of a Casino!
How far before the 30% of the Island Workforce = The Civil Service , get told , actually you are pretty crap at your jobs and underemployed to a huge degree , take a 20% reduction in either labour or salary, or explain why you should not.
Most importantly ,,,,,,, The States has a full quota of buffoons , who are either ignorant, arrogant , or in the case of some exiles , mentally unstable .It is not rocket science to make an assumption that we do not need both a large Civil Service and a large Government, given what we know about the Government , they will vote for a reduction in the Civil Service , Given what we know about the civil service, they will vote for a reduction in Government ,,,,,,,Given what we know , we the people of Jersey , who have put up with this posturing on both sides for decades ,we need wholesale ,complete obliteration of the arseholes (in charge,,,joke)
I compare these useless Feckers ,to the muppets in charge of the Zoo , sorry the Durrel! So full of their pretentious , down with it , we are the lovey dovey , caring , sharing bollix , that they have totally forgotten how to run a business"
We used to call it Jersey Limited ( that was when we had money coming out of our ears"  Now it is a limited partnership , with dancing  partners doing the hokey cokey (UK Health) , The OECD and Brussels (Who I never voted for)  telling us we are parasites .
Well Fvck Them , we are a free , independant Island and if we did not have such crap politicians we might actually get somewhere .
I have said before
TLS , feck off , way past your sell by.
Unions Feck off........There is a big world out there , it,s been on it,s arse for 2 years , wake up smell the coffee!
Southerns , Pitmans , macons , useless , irrelevant background noise , saying anything that will get them another three years at £50 k .
god forbid that I was as rabid a socialist as I was in my youth , these leeches make me want to vomit.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2010, 01:10:25 AM »
quite true sartacus,drastic action is required, big chris pointed out in tonights jep , there is no one in charge.
why heritage  sites cannot be opened and closed by volunteers, the up keep , could be maintained by offenders , doing commnity service.
 if we have a 30%  work force of civil service then we are a messed up as grecce, i. m. h.o.
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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2010, 01:14:17 AM »
Your humble opinion is spot on mate , we need a serious cull accross the board of the Civil Service , that is not just me being picky, upsetting people I know  in various depts. It is a simple fact of life , we could lose 30% and nobody would notice.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2010, 01:19:51 AM »
Apart from the 30% who would have to find jobs where they actually had to put in a fair days work.

Sounds good to me.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2010, 01:58:23 AM »
Now if I was the erudite, charming and sophisticated Terry Le Sueur and I took the brave decision to cull 30% of my civil servants I think I'd find my axe swinging down at the Tourism department first. I would march (or waddle) into David De Carteret's office and wave page 6 of tonight's JEP in his face and say 'on yer bike shag - the game's up - you've finally passed your sell by date'. And that's really saying something considering I'm Terry Le Sueur!

In tonight's paper the intellectual colossus that passes himself off as a mere Director of Tourism is basically saying that fewer people will visit the Island this summer because they will stay at home to watch the world cup.

He then goes on to say that the general election will also have an impact on visitor numbers because people will be more inclined to stay at home and vote.

Coming back onto the world cup he then tells us that he's been advising the industry to attract women to Jersey during the tournament with spa breaks and such like because women don’t watch football.

He finishes up by offering us this profound and meaningful insight "The world cup will effect everything!"

Hey Dave, why don’t you (seeing as we speak English and so do English football fans) simply market Jersey as the perfect place to watch the world cup? We have TV’s in Jersey don’t we? Then you might want to take a positive approach, which is what highly paid marketing people tend to be quite good at, instead of trying to cover your ass.  And then when you’ve done that why not admit to yourself that the general election is on one day and stop trying to make feeble excuses for the lack of imagination you have so carefully nurtured in Jersey campaigns since you took the reins? Oh and one more thing, try not to be such an old school chauvinist – women watch football too, some of them might even like to do that when not pampering themselves in the spa!

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2010, 04:18:26 AM »
Considering that the those watching the world cup are more than likely to be active sports people I would question why the tourism budget is going on promoting active holidays here.

Certainly agree with a heavy axe on tourism staff and their budget, then take a walk to maritime house and sack the harbourmaster, and Ms Shacklacky.

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2010, 04:46:55 PM »
Now if I was the erudite, charming and sophisticated Terry Le Sueur and I took the brave decision to cull 30% of my civil servants I think I'd find my axe swinging down at the Tourism department first. I would march (or waddle) into David De Carteret's office and wave page 6 of tonight's JEP in his face and say 'on yer bike shag - the game's up - you've finally passed your sell by date'. And that's really saying something considering I'm Terry Le Sueur!

In tonight's paper the intellectual colossus that passes himself off as a mere Director of Tourism is basically saying that fewer people will visit the Island this summer because they will stay at home to watch the world cup.

He then goes on to say that the general election will also have an impact on visitor numbers because people will be more inclined to stay at home and vote.

Coming back onto the world cup he then tells us that he's been advising the industry to attract women to Jersey during the tournament with spa breaks and such like because women don’t watch football.

He finishes up by offering us this profound and meaningful insight "The world cup will effect everything!"

Hey Dave, why don’t you (seeing as we speak English and so do English football fans) simply market Jersey as the perfect place to watch the world cup? We have TV’s in Jersey don’t we? Then you might want to take a positive approach, which is what highly paid marketing people tend to be quite good at, instead of trying to cover your ass.  And then when you’ve done that why not admit to yourself that the general election is on one day and stop trying to make feeble excuses for the lack of imagination you have so carefully nurtured in Jersey campaigns since you took the reins? Oh and one more thing, try not to be such an old school chauvinist – women watch football too, some of them might even like to do that when not pampering themselves in the spa!



The man's English is poor as the "World Cup will AFFECT everything"

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2010, 04:48:01 PM »
The man's English is poor as the "World Cup will AFFECT everything"

But the quality!

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Re: Tourism to target older people for 2010
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2010, 04:52:53 PM »
Ms Shacklady is the commercial manager for Harbour's is that right? Is she the person responsible for the boat show? Are there any figures in the public domain that tell us if this, or any of the other events staged at the Harbour, are commercially successfull? My hunch is that public money is spent promoting these events for the benefit of private business. How commercially succesfull is this arrangement for the states? Dundee?