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Offline ageofaquarius

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Re: Jersey Beans
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2014, 01:59:41 AM »
Bad living conditions aren't unique to Jersey - in London you would easily pay £100+pw for a squalid bedsit that has damp and noisy neighbours, but because there is work people flock, same as Jersey.  BTW if you cannot say bean then pole is also a no-no.
Conditions are better now than they were in the 70's & 80's 

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Re: Jersey Beans
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2014, 08:46:27 PM »
Totally agree that conditions for immigrants are far better than they were.
Thing is, anywhere else in the UK folk are allowed to live anywhere they can afford. There is no law which basically says you cannot own your home, or rent one with your own front door.

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Re: Jersey Beans
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2014, 02:42:19 AM »
I wonder if the quallies period has got more to do with influential buy to let landlords than any attempt to control population ;).I love my conspiracy theories!

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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2014, 04:44:28 AM »

Ok there is a big problem with allowing anyone off the boat or plane to buy a flat, house, manor. You will put out of reach property for " islanders " even more.

You see Jersey has no capital gains or inheritance tax so Mr and Mrs Comfortably retired from literally anywhere, but in this case London, sell the very large house the purchased forty years ago for £10,000 in SW13 or maybe Richmond and sell it for £2.25 million. Problem is they want to leave the money to their two children and grand children, and also have a pot containing life savings,  being careful with money.

Obviously the sensible move is to sunny Jersey. Buy a two bedroon flat for £225,000 as restrictions are scrapped. Register as a Jersey resident and bingo the kids and grandchildren get a pot of gold without 40% inheritance paid to the UK, or any other country.

How does this benefit Jersey, simple it does not, not at all. Property becomes far more expensive, first time buyers are almost completely out of the frame, and the island becomes even more crowded, and the hospital and infrastructure look after a more aged population who have not contributed. Lawyers and estate agents make a shed load more money.

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Re: Jersey Beans
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2014, 05:45:52 PM »
In the 60s or some such dark age, Jersey was swamped by people coming from the UK and other places and buying property and leaving Jersey people with no property to buy or rent.

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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2014, 01:43:46 AM »
If Immigration is such a problem. Why are companies still allowed to bring in whole families on the ,"J cat", or whatever it is called now?
Whole families are arriving and effectively by-passing housing qualification periods by one family member working for a company for five years.
When they have done their five years under the companies license, they are awarded the quallies that other folk have to wait ten years for without having to live in the abominable," non qually", sector.
They can then go and work wherever they wish, or set up their own businesses, whilst the company that originally brought them in as,"Essential Employee", is free to invite another family over using the same license as a,"Carrot". IE: Work for us for five years and you,ve got your quallies.

You only have to look at the turnover of staff at middle management level in the construction industry in recent years to see how this works. Companies can actually use housing qualifications after five years as part of the package when recruiting from the UK. (And have been doing so).

Offline Chevalier Blanc

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Re: Jersey Beans
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2014, 05:03:40 PM »
Are you sure it was C.Le Marquand who opened the flood gates because he was totally opposed to the building called after his name.
He was one of the best states member's that we had. Pity there was not more like him.

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Re: Jersey Beans
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2014, 02:41:59 AM »
He might have been opposed to the building, but as far as I know, (I,m an immigrant and dont know the full story, and stand to be corrected), but he is often quoted,"We,ve got money coming out of our ears".

Offline Chevalier Blanc

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Re: Jersey Beans
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2014, 02:24:34 PM »
Money coming out of our ears was from the early 70's. It was not I. Le Marquand or C. Le Marquand.

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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2014, 09:17:31 PM »
It was Frank Walker who uttered those words in the States.  Just as a small distraction tagged on below which has influence on how the outside world views us " Jersey Beans " and other island residents, on our beautiful island.

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How’s it going for you Frank regarding the statement to Stuart Syvret who was supposed to be " trying to screw Jersey Internationally ".  The below list was found on just one web site, and can be read by anyone with an internet device across the world. From Africa to Peru from Paris to Thailand everywhere. Of course no place is perfect but why not get a problem resolved, perpetrators punished, and apologies and help to victims years ago, rather than pouring petrol on a candle burning the bloody house down.

So nice one Frank  [ with the support of friends of course. ] how did your plan to protect Jerseys international reputation work  out ?

Each on the list below is either a video full article or researched blog from a broad section of sources including the professional media. Link at bottom.

FULL ARTICLE HERE

FREEMASONRY IN JERSEY How many were involved or in the cover up?

JERSEY ISLAND OF SECRETS(VIDEO)

'JERSEY ISLAND OF SECRETS' FULL VERSION HERE(VIDEO)

Jersey abuse warnings ignored

JERSEY ESTABLISHMENT SATANIC ABUSE EXPOSED(VIDEO)

I have known about Jersey's murdering establishment perverts for 15 years,'says journalist

Jersey House of horrors

Jersey's orphanage of horror

60 YEARS OF COVER UP:THE JERSEY ESTABLISHMENT IN THE DOCKS (VIDEO)

Jersey Establishment abuse: The Three Goons

Jersey Establishment abuse: Cowardly, Underhanded and Dishonest

30 allege child abuse in Haut de la Garenne cellars

Couple jailed for Jersey care home child abuse

Former Jersey senator Stuart Syvret jailed for contempt

Jersey politician Stuart Syvret bailed pending appeal

Secret report 'shows more Jersey child abuse'

Jersey Local media cover ups

Haunting message scrawled by Jersey victim inside 'Colditz' abuse cellar

Jersey children "frozen with fear"

Jersey abuse team is told that one attack occurred late last year

‘Culture of concealment’ divides Jersey as abuse scandal grows

Police to extend their search of punishment pits at Jersey care home

Pictures of Jersey care home 'torture chamber'

Jersey, Dutroux and cover-ups

Cellar police sift through the past for abuse secrets

Jersey senior island officials are caught up in abuse inquiry

Secrets and terror of Jersey care home

Jersey care home victim gets sinister warning

Ex-Jersey children's home worker intimidated victim into keeping quiet

Waifs and strays face institutional abusers

Governor Bailhache ,Bailiff at centre of abuse claims in care home

Edward Paisnel perverted Beast of Jersey

Body found amid fears of Establishment child abuse ring on Jersey

Senator Stuart Syvret Blog on Jersey establishment abuse

Jersey pervert abusers had positions of authority

Establishment satanic abuse rings exposed

State-protected pervert ring in Jersey?

Jersey senior politicians accused of covering up abuse

Police reopen Hampshire child home investigation

Former Boys and Girls Abused at Quarriers Homes

Significant finds in the cellar at Jersey torture child care home

The 'dungeon of torture' in Jersey

NOW ENGLISH CHILDREN'S HOME FACES ITS OWN INVESTIGATION

Stuart Syvret the (MASONIC)Jersey establishment covered up child abuse

Jersey care home abuse victim was locked up, drugged, beaten and abused

All care agencies in Jersey investigated for failing to act over alleged child abuse

Jersey abuse 'cover-up faces exposure'

Quirky, independent and proud, the isle of secrets and whispers

Jersey care inquiry uncovers a shocking truth

Haut de la Garenne: Why abuse on this level could happen again

A care home and Jersey's PERVERTED dark secrets

Stuart Syvret was sacked after exposing abuse in a Jersey children’s home

Body found amid fears of abuse ring on Jersey

All on

http://www.intmensorg.info/jersey.htm

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Re: Jersey Beans
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2014, 04:57:06 PM »
Its was not frank walker. Who utterd the "money coming out of ears" statement.
I think cb. Is correct . Shortly after anouncing that the island was rolling in it.
 The brithish goverment asked jersey for a  contribution. To our defence.
Then the taxpayers of this island paid to build homes in the falklands.
Sllowly but surely the finance house have stopped  paying into  the gravey pot of this little island .
And the sherif of nottingham , has tiped out any spare cash  from the working persons  pocket , till the. Ordinary below average wage(by goverment standards)earner ,is worse off than some one on benifits

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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2014, 04:19:13 PM »
Frank Walker was not in the states when that statement was made.
I cannot see Cyril Le Marquand coming out with it because he was the finance president and he just would not say that.
He was very clever in that there was no low relief for income tax and he never put up what you could claim. When all that was realised  the union jumped on this and showed the island just how Le Marquand was making so much so much money at our expense.
Things changed after that which made it better for all.
Now they have gone back to how it was and nearly everybody once again pays tax. The sheriff of Nottingham comes to mind!
So I really do hope that ozouf is not in the states after the elections and some of the others that have ruined this island of ours!