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Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« on: August 18, 2011, 05:10:47 AM »


I see in tonights JEP see that Tracy Vallois is standing for another term. Never met her, actually have never see her as far as I am aware, she is one of the Assistant Ministers for education.

Looked up how the young vibrant Deputy has been voting ( thanks Admin ) and guess what not impressed not one bit. I think Tracy came to office in 2008 so that works out over three years her name hardly appears.

Abstained over the WEB take over by Jersey Development wow..... not at all cool in such a close vote.

Actually and very seriously not there to vote in  many major propositions since 2008 which affect thousands of peoples daily lives.

When Deputy Tracy is about always seems to vote with Mr Ozouf which is fine, but  why do I feel she has not bothered to read the proposal.

Maybe it's just me ? 

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2011, 12:43:47 AM »
Her district is who she represents and is elected to do so, if your not happy then why not stand against her.

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2011, 01:01:42 PM »
So, her vote doesn't count 'Island Wide' Dundee?????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2011, 02:35:20 PM »




Every time I post Dundee as sure as eggs is eggs, you pop up and say the opposite. That is fine you are entitled to your point ( normally the opposite ) of view. In the big scheme of things no damage is done.

You obviously have overlooked the fact that every elected representative can and does affect every facet of our live by voting for or against GST, incinerators etc, and that is very important. Of course you know this, and that makes your comment quite odd.

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 03:01:15 AM »

She has been fairly elected and we have not.

She votes as she thinks appropriate and has evey right to do so

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2011, 05:54:05 PM »

I see in tonights JEP see that Tracy Vallois is standing for another term. Never met her, actually have never see her as far as I am aware, she is one of the Assistant Ministers for education.

Looked up how the young vibrant Deputy has been voting ( thanks Admin ) and guess what not impressed not one bit. I think Tracy came to office in 2008 so that works out over three years her name hardly appears.

Abstained over the WEB take over by Jersey Development wow..... not at all cool in such a close vote.

Actually and very seriously not there to vote in  many major propositions since 2008 which affect thousands of peoples daily lives.

When Deputy Tracy is about always seems to vote with Mr Ozouf which is fine, but  why do I feel she has not bothered to read the proposal.

Maybe it's just me ? 

BB

REALLY?
How very odd then i found that if you go here http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/frame.asp and look under her voting record you can see that in the 3 years she has been in she is pretty consistent on voting i.e. she is in chamber to vote


Now lets not also forget she has taken part in:

   
Ministerial Departments:
Education, Sport and Culture  Assistant Minister

Scrutiny Panels:
Migration and Population - Vice-Chairman
Jersey Development Company - Member
Income Support - Review of Benefit Levels - Vice-Chairman
Data Protection - Chairman
Migration Law - Vice-Chairman


Of course people are entitled to there own opinion, but bloody hell have an informed opinion, also maybe once in a while try talking to the Deputy's more than when it comes around for election time, you get a better feel of what there about.

BB this isn't a personal pop at you but can you point me to the WEB related voting that you talk about as i couldnt find it on her voting record?
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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 04:17:06 AM »
Her district is who she represents and is elected to do so, if your not happy then why not stand against her.

These type of statements always concern me - I am in full agreement when you state, if you're not happy why not stand against her - Too many people with too many views, often of the negative standpoint, and too few people putting their hat in the ring - If we want a real democracy, we will need a broader spectrum of candidates.

However, on that point and the first half of your statement, any island candidate, be they Connetable, Deputy and Senator all vote on island wide issues, and therefore, whilst it is important that your candidate can represent the best interest of their district, it is absolutely essential that any candidate can speak clearly and intelligently on the key issues, impacting us all on a daily basis.

Urgent reform is needed to break the cycle we find ourselves in - All candidates with island wide mandates, and all sharing the same title - If this could be achieved, we would see a vast difference in the make up of our States Chamber, and perhaps more could be achieved, as it is clear that the view of the States couldnt possibly be lower at this time!

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2015, 06:24:18 PM »
7 years after she got elected as a Deputy in a working class area based on her connections with supposedly 'leftie' Senator Alan Breckon and 4 years after BB had obviously sussed her out good and proper on this thread, Tracey now has a potential job for life (subject to continued good behaviour) as Deputy of St John and holds the title of Assistant Minister, Treasury and Resources under Senator Alan Maclean.

As a typical example of the type of exalted company that Tracey keeps these days, here's a tweet she excitedly published on 24th April 2015, retweeted by her bosses Gorst and Maclean, taken at the Institute of Directors (IOD) annual spewfest awards, in the presence of everyone you ever saw featured in Gallery mag (if you could bother to hold the mag long enough to recognise anyone before chucking it in the nearest bin). It shows (photo on the right side, link below) guest speaker Gyles Brandreth presenting Social Security Chief Officer Ian Burns (responsible for implementing the Jersey Government's current benefit cutbacks) with the joint award for 'Public/Third Sector Director of the Year'. Gyles had obviously been well-briefed about Burns in advance and specifically referred to unemployment in Jersey and 'Back to Work' (nothing critical, of course, because he would very much like to be paid top money to host this event again):

https://twitter.com/tavallois/status/591737457827291136


I'm sure plenty of top-quality vintage bubbly from the caves of Reims was collectively consumed and loads of useful 'networking' done!

Off-topic but fun - the same Gyles pictured by The Mirror way back in 1971 when he was campaigning to get pornography banned (looks a bit more exciting than the IOD Awards!):

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/S-F1000/FMF/BRANDR1971DMR08-26A.png

 
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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 06:00:40 PM »
Well we learned today that Tracey Vallois has made the ultimate sacrifice: she has given up her automatic invite to next year's IOD Awards by resigning as Assistant Minister at the Treasury.  ::)

Here is an extract from an interview she gave to Bailiwick Express:

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“And for me, I’m a very organised individual, so that’s a huge frustration, seeing people who are running the Island and how disorganised they are. From my point of view, it does not seem as joined-up as it should be – as much as they like to say it is. And that’s from the inside.”

Asked what was missing, she said the answer was simple: “Leadership. Strong leadership. For the type of change that has got to happen – and it really does have to happen – the public sector needs to change with the times and we need to modernise and we need to have a customer service focus.

But in order to do that, we need strong leadership and I do not have the confidence that we’ve got that. It’s not all about talk – it’s also about action.”

http://www.bailiwickexpress.com/jsy/news/departing-minister-quits-broadside-over-dysfunctional-leadership-and-top-civil-servants-blocking-reform/?t=i


I always find it extremely worrying when politicians who are obviously trying to climb the greasy pole to power begin moaning about how we need "strong leadership", as if certain other Ministers, most notably Pinel, aren't already abusing the enormous powers they've got to make law on a whim without consulting anybody. A thousand dictators through history must have started their careers with similar words. Note that she makes no criticism of the government's recent MTFP cutbacks. In fact she appears to be indicating that she is frustrated that they haven't gone even further ("the public sector needs to change with the times and we need to modernise / It’s not all about talk – it’s also about action"). As if there hasn't already been enough "action" in recent months!

She also says that government "does not seem as joined-up as it should be". This concerns me too because it implies that there are areas of government that she would have liked, as Assistant Treasury Minister, to have exerted greater political control over, but other Ministers or bureaucrats hindered her attempts.

It was comments like that from States Members in decades gone by that eventually led to the replacement of the far more democratic committee system of government with a ministerial system that has concentrated far more executive power in far fewer hands. Now a decade after those changes came into effect, we have an Assistant Minister effectively saying that the concentration of power under the new system of government hasn't resulted in the level of strong leadership that she desires, so she's quitting... for the time being at least. 

If I am eventually proved correct in my belief that her ultimate aim is to become Jersey's first female Chief Minister, what will she do when she gets that job and finds that certain other Ministers or civil servants aren't completely obedient to her? We are already getting a hint of her potential style of government and it could end up making everything that has come before her seem quite democratic and respectful of public opinion by comparison.

If this woman was running her local mother and toddler group, there would probably be murmurs of discontent emanating from the other mothers about her authoritative leadership style. Yet she's very carefully positioning herself to play a major role in Jersey's government after the 2018 elections and nobody seems to have a bad word to say about her....

http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2015/11/03/maybe-i-was-only-asked-to-join-to-keep-me-quiet-deputy-quits-assistant-minister-role/


http://www.itv.com/news/channel/update/2015-11-03/assistant-treasury-minister-says-shes-disillusioned-and-demoralised-by-jerseys-council-of-ministers/
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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2015, 12:52:49 AM »
I'm sorry but I totally disagree with you.I think its great that a senior politician has come out like this and expressed her exasperation at the incompetence of her so called work collegues.I think she is one of the good ones

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2015, 01:03:32 AM »

What are they to do Jerry ? say nothing do even less and be ridiculed and put down or ………….    disagree, blow the whistle, give a frank and open interview and er ………..   be ridiculed, and put down.

I wish more politicians would show back bone and stand up for their principles as she has done even if it did take a while. 

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2015, 02:36:24 AM »
I can only agree boatyboy.
On another tack, if I was Sam mesac, I would be wondering why ouzouf was my mate for a interveiw out side the chamber.

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2015, 08:38:40 AM »
I'm sorry but I totally disagree with you.I think its great that a senior politician has come out like this and expressed her exasperation at the incompetence of her so called work collegues.I think she is one of the good ones

She made it clear in the various interviews she gave that her exasperation related to the inability of her colleagues to implement "reform" (she expressly used this word in her ITV News interview, pronouncing it as "REE-form"!). However, what she did not elaborate on was exactly what this "REE-form" entails and her close media chummies were very careful not to interrogate her on this.

My interpretation of her intended "reform" was pretty clear - she doesn't believe that the level of staff redundancies that the States has so far announced is sufficient. She wants it to be even more radical. Furthermore, she hinted that if this "REE-form" was not carried out, the proposed funds for health and education would be at risk. This implies that her REE-forms, whatever they are, will mainly affect public sector staff and services that are located in areas other than health and education. I notice that the unions have been completely silent in response. More fool them. I wouldn't be happy with their silence if I was a paying union member employed in the public sector. I'd want my representative to be on the phone to her last night demanding clarification of exactly what "REE-form" she's talking about.

She's playing a game that Francis Urquhart would surely admire:

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/House_of_Cards_%28trilogy%29


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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2015, 03:18:03 PM »
Here we go Jerry the real reason has emerged. The public sector with its 600 managers being paid over £70,000 each per year needs a drastic haircut ( for haircut think reform ) down to size. How about education. Front line teachers no problem but it is so well run that after the argument about fee increases for parents that Mario Lundy refused to tell anyone how many non teaching backroom administrators and pen pushers were employed it is a secret as with so many useless states departments. We get paid you just keep on getting tax increases.

By the way Jerry I have some inside knowledge of the waste and ridiculously high wage packets received by states workers, who would never ever be paid as much in the UK as I have been employed full time by two seperate states departments in my time. The overtime rates and perks were wonderful, but I chose a different road.

It is completely out of this world bonkers that an island of a mere 45 square miles pays out £380 million a year ( or divided by 110,000 ) each and every Jersey resident ( including children if you like ) forks out £3,454 pounds each to pay Jersey's public sector wage bill. This includes the employers social security and pension contributions. Is it any reason Jersey is going broke.

The black hole deficit off £165 million is not even 50% of the island annual wage obligation.

The last 4% states wage increase by the way saw around £15 million added to the total wage bill.

Front line workers I support, the hundreds of made up titles of clip board fantasy pen pushing non job so called managers I do not.  Reform in Deputy Vallois case means cutbacks on waste. Waste to me is paying people for doing nothing. Would you rather hit the non public sector private workers, low income earners and pensioners for more taxes to get and keep more of the same ?

I enjoyed very much your research and articles on the social security  " back to work  scheme " employng more and more people and getting an increasd budget, to deal with fewer applicants, a pure example of inefficiency and empire building, where the department gets bigger than the probelm and is another example of  ridiculous states spending while the public job seekers are forced to jump through hoops to keep the department staff employed.

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Re: Tracy Vallois to stand for who exactly
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2015, 05:16:23 PM »
Here we go Jerry the real reason has emerged. The public sector with its 600 managers being paid over £70,000 each per year needs a drastic haircut ( for haircut think reform ) down to size. How about education. Front line teachers no problem but it is so well run that after the argument about fee increases for parents that Mario Lundy refused to tell anyone how many non teaching backroom administrators and pen pushers were employed it is a secret as with so many useless states departments. We get paid you just keep on getting tax increases.

By the way Jerry I have some inside knowledge of the waste and ridiculously high wage packets received by states workers, who would never ever be paid as much in the UK as I have been employed full time by two seperate states departments in my time. The overtime rates and perks were wonderful, but I chose a different road.
Boatyboy.

I agree with your comments, BB. There are certainly too many managers and bureaucrats. However, the higher their position in the States, the more these Ministers rely on them to implement their (often wasteful) policies and hence the safer their jobs are. That is why these Chief Executives get such fantastic pay packages. Even if they fall out with the Minister or their work isn't up to standard, they leave with no disgrace, a huge 'golden handshake' and the assurance that, unlike most people who've just lost their job, they'll soon be re-employed on probably even better terms by one of the UK Councils. It will never be them who suffer.

This news article from Bailiwick Express, published today, reveals the States workers who are going to suffer - the manual workers who maintain the public sector housing stock for the benefit of tenants, the people who keep our parks and gardens looking lovely etc.:

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TTS plan to cut 61 jobs by the end of 2016 under dramatic plans to slash costs and review the services that it provides.

And the department has already ended one gardening contract to let a private sector organisation step in, and are preparing to stop doing work for the Education department soon.

They are dropping their contract with Andium Homes - the States-owned body that took over from the Housing department - and say that they will be able to find a new contractor who can do the job for 50% cheaper.

Documents presented to the States show that 61 jobs are set to go at the Transport and Technical Services department – around 40 will be by not replacing staff who retire or leave, while 13 will take voluntary redundancy this year, and another nine will follow next year.


http://www.bailiwickexpress.com/jsy/news/more-60-jobs-go-tts/?t=i

This is a disgrace! I hope States (Andium) tenants will protest in whatever way they can. We know what the consequences will be because the UK has already outsourced most of its public services and it has been a disaster for everyone involved apart from the shareholders and chief executives of the multinationals who win the contracts... and the politicians who award the contracts in the first place, of course. ;) We should be learning from the UK's terrible mistakes - not following them. The politicians absolutely love outsourcing because they get kickbacks at the start of the contracts and then when the public get fed up of their corrupt ways and vote them out of office, they have cushy non-executive Directorships on the boards of these outsourcing giants to look forward to.  >:(

PS - Just in case any libel lawyers are reading this, I am happy to clarify that not all politicians accept bribes in return for awarding contracts and I am not suggesting that corruption has played any part in the outsourcing of these Jersey contracts mentioned in this Bailiwick Express article.
 
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