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Offline Chevalier Blanc

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #90 on: June 09, 2016, 06:33:32 PM »
ozouf could not give a straight answer to a straight question. Maybe that is why he is not straight.
It beggers belief that he answered they way he did.  the most unhonest member sitting in the states. This clown has to go.

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #91 on: June 10, 2016, 02:30:35 AM »

If I had gone to a bank to borrow that kind of cash without callateral the normal questions would be asked. But go to Ozouf and his pals no worries. Now they have done a runner. Only in Jersey. This is not the 1st time,

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #92 on: June 11, 2016, 03:32:04 PM »
yet another  lash up  from  the chumps .
 would  love to  know who  gave our tax  dollar  away.
 if  this  was  france  you  would see  the  riot  squad  outside   the  states  building .
  and  the  golfing duo  still  have  a job  to  go to .
 laughing  all  the way to  the  bank .
 5000,  fail  to make   tax  return .
 i take  that  as  a  silent  protest .
 if  we  were  still on  old  system   the  figure  would  be  much   higher  as  the  disgruntled  public could  choose  not  to  give   the  wasters a single  penny  till  they  could  show  good  governance .
  this  lot must  go . 

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #93 on: June 11, 2016, 05:50:06 PM »
Its a shame we don't have any strong leadership to oppose these corrupt incompetents.
Maybe all the unions could get together and bring this island to a standstill until they become accountable.We need more of the French spirit,blockading roads,big protests,get the farmers dump a load of manure outside the states building.Actually get some people sacked from the states and tried in the UK for abuse of public office.This island is being sucked dry by a very small number of people,surely people power can turf them out.

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #94 on: June 12, 2016, 02:41:38 AM »
Royal Square would be a cracking spot for a guillotine. Just imagine the boost to tourism.

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #95 on: June 12, 2016, 03:14:02 PM »
What an excellent idea! We could charge an entrance fee and re-coup all the monies that 'they' have lost/squandered and share it among the peasants/pensioners/needy etc.


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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #96 on: June 12, 2016, 04:47:15 PM »
You could easily miss the staggering figure - so here it is in plain view - at the bottom of the page.

There have been various and some may say sympathetic figures banded about by the establishment trying to hide the disgraceful amount of money taken from the public purse  to fund expensive jollies to all corners of the world.

Chief Minister Gorst himself a lover of global travel ( paid for by us ) so little embarrassed by the episode that he declares all travel for civil servants costing more than £500 must now be declared on line and then excluded's all States members travel costs which incidentally, does not show up on the states Greff summary of travel by states members. This is a man that heads a council that wants to increase taxes and charges on every household and person on Jersey.

Still Mr King pictured below and his fellow golfing partner Mr Gallichan, who had a lovely time in South Africa ( thank you taxpayers ) is having a heartfelt stomach churning laugh as he probably guessed the £14,000 they spent would result in no disciplinary charges as this would open the can regarding spending on Jollies for the boys and girls which would indeed have been embarrassing. The point of this post is the true cost of all excess.

For foreign guests reading this - the amount is made ridiculous by the fact the island is only 45 miles in area and has 49 states ( Gov ) members but it is mainly the twenty two " chosen ministers who do all the Jollies around the world and their civil servant friends. The opposition and sensible question type of politicians rarely go anywhere.



ANYONE FOR A ROUND OF GOLF IN SOUTH AFRICA paid for by you - certainly not me.

JEP.

The States has announced an overhaul of the rules on travel, which costs around £3 million a year.

http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/06/12/states-to-publish-all-travel-spending-above-500/#gB6fToE4CtItwU0T.99

Snouts in the trough.

http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2016/03/09/states-probe-into-south-africa-flights-to-stay-confidential/

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #97 on: June 12, 2016, 04:59:35 PM »
Bang on Shortport if only the people were to rise up and show the ministers that we are not going to have this corrupt govenement any longer. Only then will we get the government we want for us the people.

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #98 on: October 22, 2016, 06:30:00 AM »
What certain members of the Government have forgotten in protecting the secrets of arms length quango's, is that they, and the way quangos are run, should be answerable to elected politicians sitting on scrutiny panels.

You need to tune into 9.54 sec of the youtube video to hear Congress interviewing the FBI over the Clinton emails. Senators Gorst, Maclean and Ozouf, protectors of the discredited States of Jersey Development Company please take note.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deRdXRQo72I

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #99 on: January 20, 2017, 09:46:29 PM »
Hi all fellow bloggers’ I am on holiday for a few days so thought I would listen and watch the video ) of our Parliament in action over the hospital funding debate ( yep call me sad if you wish ) that sees almost a billion pounds paid out over forty years even though the proper hospital spending blueprint is missing and in the UK they seem to build hospitals for half the price.

Can it get any worse under this present council of ministers afraid so, because Deputy Tracy Vallois obviously has done her homework and pointed out that under the finance law Jerseys' States cannot borrow more than last years tax receipts. To do so would break the law and the Bailiff became serious about getting the deputy and the States a clear answer therefore called in the attorney general not allowing any further business until the question was answered.

I am not an accountant or legal expert but his response was that The states borrowed £250 million because it was cheaper for them to do so, then pass it on to Andium Homes. A further £400 million would just bring it under last years receipts of an estimated £680 million. OK so far hope you are with me on the direction we are heading.

What is to me unbelievable is that all the quango's including the multi millions borrowed by SoJDC, Harbours and Airports etc etc are not counted as states borrowing even though these are public car parks land and properties. It therefore must be the case that as stand alone loans if they go wrong the banks are entitled to take full and complete control of the publics land and assets forever.

How many times have we been told by politicians that forming SoJDC and the all other quango's is in the best interest of the island and its people? Well all the publics’ assets can now be taken by banks if they default on loans.

The Attorney General decided that the amount the Jersey States may wish to borrow receipts so is legal. Deputy John Le Fondre pointed out that the agreement reached in 1987 regarding the states pension scheme which owed £300 million could this be counted as states debt. The answer again is no this is excluded from the states balance when the law was drawn up the same applies to all quango debt.

The bottom line is that assets are one by one are being removed from the responsibility of elected politicians and transferred sometimes for just £1 to separated companies ( owned by the States ) who in the event of failure will hand over public assets to the financial institutions. This council of ministers are allowing debt and risk to be taken on in the name of the people but in reality the people and their politicians have little control as witnessed by the hated SoJDC office developments and Innovation fund farce, The continued removal of public areas around the harbours and waterfront and the taking over of public properties by out of control quangos who put business before people and their ownership of their island is normal everyday business on Jersey.

There were thirteen people making up the hardcore who wish for no scrutiny and support this daylight robbery. I will never again consider their names when I vote.

Boatyboy.

Paul Francis Routier M.B.E. Contre

Senator Philip Francis Cyril Ozouf Contre

Senator Alan John Henry Maclean Contre

Senator Ian Joseph Gorst Contre

Senator Lyndon John Farnham Contre

Senator Andrew Kenneth Francis Green M.B.E. Contre

Connétable of St Peter  John Martin Refault Contre

Deputy Anne Enid Pryke Contre

Deputy Susan Jane Pinel Contre

Deputy Stephen George Luce Contre

Deputy Roderick Gordon Bryans Contre

Deputy Andrew David Lewis Contre

Deputy Peter Derek McLinton Contre

Deputy Edward James Noel Abstained  ( Coward )
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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2017, 12:37:31 AM »
Eddie Noel abstained because he was ill.

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2017, 05:09:54 AM »

Hi HG thanks for that comment about Eddie Noel abstaining

I try to use facts and back them up. I happened to watch the whole debate and thought I saw him in the chamber.

Please let us know where you found out he was ill. What is your information source ?

I also used Hansard. HG are you saying Hansard was wrong.

Hansard.

Deputy Edward James Noel Abstained

Connétable Stephen William Pallett Ill

Connétable Sadie Anthea Le Sueur-Rennard Ill

Deputy Richard John Rondel Ill

Deputy Kristina Louise Moore Out of the island

Deputy Louise Mary Catherine Doublet Excused attendance

Senator Sir Philip Martin Bailhache En défaut

http://www.statesassembly.gov.je/Pages/Votes.aspx?VotingId=4577

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2017, 03:54:25 PM »
He sent a message saying he was sick. He seems to be sick a lot, what is wrong with him?

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #103 on: January 22, 2017, 04:13:27 AM »
He sent a message saying he was sick. He seems to be sick a lot, what is wrong with him?

In that case you must of read it maybe on twitter or face book HG.

Please copy and paste the message or provide a link as I did to the Hansard which says clearly that Deputy Eddie Noel Abstained.

Thanks,

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Re: Accountabilty and transparancy, the hallmarks of good Government
« Reply #104 on: December 03, 2017, 04:21:44 PM »
THE UK Governments Pledge to end secrecy, will Jersey be made to follow.

Telegraph:

Additional guidance was published in June 2017, but the government has to make good on its promise to create comprehensive register of shell companies’ real owners.

“The government committed to crack down on dirty money in the property market over two years ago, but has so far failed to introduce any legislation, despite widespread support".

The disclosure comes as peers separately call on ministers to honour a pledge to “ publish “ a public register listing individuals who own UK properties through companies registered overseas - a move the Government had said would “assist investigators [to] track down and recover proceeds of crime”.

Lord Faulks, a QC, has put down an amendment to the Sanctions and Anti-Money Laundering Bill, which would introduce a register of beneficial ownership of UK properties.

Additional guidance was published in June 2017, but the government has to make good on its promise to create comprehensive register of shell companies’ real owners.
“The government committed to crack down on dirty money in the property market over two years ago, but has so far failed to introduce any legislation, despite widespread support.

The disclosure comes as peers separately call on ministers to honour a pledge to “ publish “ a public register listing individuals who own UK properties through companies registered overseas - a move the Government had said would “assist investigators [to] track down and recover proceeds of crime”.
Lord Faulks, a QC, has put down an amendment to the Sanctions and Anti-Money Laundering Bill, which would introduce a register of beneficial ownership of UK properties.

Will Jersey follow suit, or continue to hide names - if the UK steps up, Jersey obviously should follow with a full public register of ownership  ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/02/fears-dirty-money-paid-uzbek-singers-london-homes/

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