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Are we in safe hands?
« on: June 14, 2009, 02:07:14 PM »
There has been for some time an ever rising tide of discontent, now on the flood, there is also the seepage of anxiety. Why?

The COM, since their installment have been practising the politics of deceit. On the other hand the JDA "party" seems to have become encumbered under the weight of their own obsession to hinder and obstruct the plans of our new CM and his cronies.

They offer no substantive ideas or alternate theories outside of the ageless party style rhetoric of cutting taxes, outdated pseudo-socialistic ideals and espouse that they have been left out on consultations by the CM and various comittees they sit on, which is ridiculous and furthermore an outright lie; then generally have the headset of obstructing a large part of any agenda in the hopes that policies fail and that they will be in a good position to recapture lost ground in the next series of elections.

Do they really believe that the memory of Jersey people is that short? That after the Walker regime which flaunted the law, presiding over economic policies which have brought the Island to the brink of financial disaster and left the new CM to recover a tainted image which he is wholly responsible for and do they honestly believe that the people of the Island are going to put them back in office next time round?

I have problems with many views of our right-wing based smoothies as well as of the JDA, whom, like American Republicans are traditionally the rabble-rousers. Yes, I would like them to hide under a rock and only show their faces in time to pay taxes, but indeed, keep their opinions and therefore their shortsighted and parochial opinions to themselves. Hell, I wouldn't care if they formed a new breakoff party for real altogether. They do nothing but hinder progress under the cloak of social zealotry and moralistic chicanery, inbred with distortions.

The right wing for us are the COM, whom seem to speak for the entire Island. They are pure hell for all of us. They are selfish at every avenue of change, save that which deregulates and benefits the rich. Their hyperbolic spin is each day at a new level. Where is their rock to crawl under? They are a persistent threat to changing the status quo. Let them linger in the dark for a long time. Who cares? They're of no use to progressive minds in our society. Problem is that the stage which they operate from is unimpeachable.

Now there's the rub, like a woman, you can't live without them (Lord Mandleson copy cats excepted) and you can't live with them without a problem. So where is the anxiety?

Today, we receive less, we pay more. There is ever increasing division in society, curiously caused by the concept of us now being more equal to each other than we have ever been, yet, our traditional learnings, methods, honour and honesty are challenged on a daily basis by the insideous laws setting out regulatory ways of forcing change from everything we have hoped for.

How many times have you heard our CM say "The alternative is unthinkable". This is a standard which is played at the precise moment there could be doubt in his ways of thinking. No further explanation and damn anyone who dares.

I beleive our problems are deeper rooted than anything which meets the eye. Who is it in power that we "don't hear from", who is responsible for the things which are not discussed openly and why is it that a satiation of power has led our Island to this sorry state?

I beleive that SOJ needs a person to govern it who can shake the fleas out of the rug whilst considering the interests of the people of the Island first, instead of taxing and regulating the hell out of us all.
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Re: Are we in safe hands?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 04:23:11 PM »
I beleive that SOJ needs a person to govern it who can shake the fleas out of the rug whilst considering the interests of the people of the Island first, instead of taxing and regulating the hell out of us all.

But how will you find such a person? The problem with politicians is that wishing to become one ought to be grounds for exclusion from running for office.

I just don't believe we could get a "Good Man" into the top job. We'd be better off looking at structural ways of tempering the flaws of politicians. I'm not convinced, for example, that we have any effective opposition to the CoM. This is not just about Scrutiny, but the others in the Chamber.

The loudest critics of the CoM - the JDA and Stuart Syvret - are, in my view, discreditable to the ends they serve and the causes they promote are left worse off, not better, for their involvement. As messengers, I can't take them seriously. So who's left to oppose and critique the Executive?

We need better checks and balances. So better politicians would be nice, but we should build our political systems to withstand occupancy by people as flawed as we are.
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Re: Are we in safe hands?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 05:40:04 PM »
In the words of an old Tory Prime Minister we need to get back down to basics.  We need a grey man who used to make and sell gnomes.  We need a John or Jill Major minus the Currie.

We certainly need a first minister who is a little more introvert and who can concentrate on  and fix local problems without having to worry about making money for him/herself, always looking to the side and back to check for any interesting outside global opportunities.

I digress  but would certainly not wish to be the person who decides what and where the money is spent from the health budget but if you only have so much to spend some corners just have to be cut.  It is a matter of priorities.  In my view there are some things I would not expect to be paid for by the tax payer.

Regarding Social Security: I would not encourage young women to have children so they can live off the States.  I resist the temptation to call them single parent families because I don't think that is the right phrase to use as many single parent families did not originally start as single parent families but ended up there due to divorce or death.  Maybe we should coin a phrase for these single women who have children by different fathers and expect to be kept on income support so we don't confuse the two.

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Re: Are we in safe hands?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2009, 09:53:17 PM »
I know of single women with children who openly say that they will not get married to the father of their children because she would get less from the States. Her partner can spend ( i believe ) no more than 2 nights at her place of residents in a week. One of these women have 3 children all by the same man, lives in States house while her partner ( unmarried ) lives else where. He earns very good money as a fisherman, the children want for nothing their dad stays with them 2 nights a week and she gets her full allowance from social and does not work and has a very nice car.
There is a breed of people living in this island in the same way and they are far better off than a married couple who's father is working all hours and mum works too and they get nothing from social just a sightly lower rent. This is where the States need to get a grip with and sort that out!!!
As been said "so long as the rich States member is alright they do not care". It does not cost them anything, does it.

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Re: Are we in safe hands?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2009, 05:59:34 PM »
Thanks Sarah for the Karma point, I knew I could count on you. ;)
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Re: Are we in safe hands?
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2009, 09:37:22 AM »
OK Spartan, I see where you are taking this.

Was it Edouard Stern, one of France's richest, or Cecile Brossard whose hands were safe ones.

For one, I dont give a rat's arse and for two, there is no single paradigm with this thread.

I think you should perhaps post this link on a new thread entitled "Spartacus and Fritz - a love combination". What do you think? Who do you think and how do you think ( don't answer the last question if it will incriminate you!).


Please note that all the characters are fictitious and based on notional identities to protect the persons concerned.
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Re: Are we in safe hands?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2009, 01:36:04 PM »
Groan!

Dont tell me --- you are not really Spartacus, you ARE Stephen Damman?
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Re: Are we in safe hands?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2009, 02:24:31 PM »
No I'm Stephen Damman.

Yo I'm da man.

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Re: Are we in safe hands?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2009, 07:51:56 PM »
I actually think I could be the lost love child of the richest politician in Jersey , i just need to find out who that is before I stake my claim.