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Offline Chevalier Blanc

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ozouf not guilty
« on: May 03, 2017, 03:29:41 PM »
Well there we have it.  Makes ozouf look good with him resigning only to be found not guilty. Took the CoM's long enough to come out with this statement.
They knew all along that they would get him off the hook and that is why he resigned. 
So what about the other two ministers?   Nothing going to be done.
They certainly have come out all ok because it was confusion that is to blame.
Well ozouf did set this fund up, so surely he must be to blame for not putting in place what everybody's responsibilities were. So he must be to blame along with maclean and farnham.
Just one big cover up again and ozouf is a shining knight.

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2017, 02:28:22 AM »
Well remember he never resigned,merely 'stepped aside'.Now he has amazingly 'stepped back in'.
No accountability as usual as long as spineless Gorst is at the helm.Interestingly there have been two real resignation today,head of police Mike Bowen and eternal chief executive John Richardson,obviously both leaving a sinking ship before Brexit kicks in.

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2017, 05:28:27 AM »

Channel 103.

The Chairman of Reform Jersey says he fears no-one will be held accountable for the “Innovation Fund fiasco”.
Instead, Deputy Sam Mézec says a report – which blames the island’s “cumbersome” political system for the loss of £1.4 million of taxpayers’ money – “clearly paves the way for Senator Philip Ozouf’s return to government”.

Senator Ozouf resigned as an Assistant Chief Minister in January over the scandal.

The Chief Minister, Senator Ian Gorst, has now cleared him of wrongdoing, while Senators Farnham and Maclean – who both signed off on JIF loans – are set to keep their jobs.

“Apparently no one is to blame, and that’s the astonishing thing about this,” says Deputy Mézec.

“Various ministers have had oversight of the Innovation Fund, and apparently nobody knew any of this was going on.

“The Chief Minister thinks that the punishment for the people who are responsible for this is that they should carry on in their job roles – it’s absolutely unbelievable.”


The Chairman of Reform Jersey says he fears no-one will be held accountable for the “Innovation Fund fiasco”.


Instead, Deputy Sam Mézec says a report – which blames the island’s “cumbersome” political system for the loss of £1.4 million of taxpayers’ money – “clearly paves the way for Senator Philip Ozouf’s return to government”.


Senator Ozouf resigned as an Assistant Chief Minister in January over the scandal.


The Chief Minister, Senator Ian Gorst, has now cleared him of wrongdoing, while Senators Farnham and Maclean – who both signed off on JIF loans – are set to keep their jobs.


“Apparently no one is to blame, and that’s the astonishing thing about this,” says Deputy Mézec.

“Various ministers have had oversight of the Innovation Fund, and apparently nobody knew any of this was going on.

“The Chief Minister thinks that the punishment for the people who are responsible for this is that they should carry on in their job roles – it’s absolutely unbelievable.”

The fund faces losses of £1.4 million of taxpayers’ money


In light of the report, the Chief Minister has proposed changes which he says will streamline States decision making.


But Deputy Mézec says Senator Gorst is using the report to “justify a power grab”.


He fears the move will erode the power of backbenchers, by getting “more people involved in the Council of Ministers, where they’re bound by Collective Responsibility and have to vote the way the Chief Minister tells them to vote, irrespective of what their conscience says.

“That is just a step towards a more dictatorial style of government.”

He adds that the ultimate power should lie with the people of Jersey and “not with a small handful of individuals behind closed doors.”


The Chief Minister says he will consider alternatives to collective responsibility.

The post Mézec Criticises Gorst’s ‘Power Grab’ appeared first on Channel 103.

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2017, 03:42:55 PM »
ozouf set the fund up so he was in charge.   maclean and farham should be made to resign.
gorst has not got the b+lls to sack any of them!
You can bet your bottom dollar that ozouf resigning was the plan knowing that it would come out as no one is to blame and then ozouf comes back full of glory.
Hurry up 2018 to get these useless people out!

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2017, 04:22:54 PM »
What the hell is ozouf doing going to South Africa.   He is only a backbencher now.
gorst you are useless!!!
amclean, farnham they should have all resigned on block as they take on accountability together but when it does not suit they do not take accountability!
Shower of crooks is all they are. When you read the emails between maclean, farham and gorst it tells you everything you want to know about the CoM's.
The public should force an election and not wait until next year.

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2017, 09:20:01 PM »
From September 2011 under Ozouf as treasury minister,  the rich ( very ) immigrants pay a lot less tax -  so who has to pay more you and me ?red colour my simple maths.

The changes were approved the States of Jersey, by a vote of 35 to 10.

Under the new 1(1)k regime, new 1(1)k residents will be taxed at 20% on the first £625,000 of all of their worldwide income and 1% on all income thereafter. They are also required to pay a minimum tax liability of £125,000.


Previously, these 1(1)ks  paid 20% on all of their Jersey-sourced income as well as on just the first £1m =£200,000 of their foreign-sourced income. After that, they paid only 10% on the next £500,000 = £50,000 and 1% on the remainder. Additionally, the minimum amount they were required to pay was £100,000.

http://www.international-adviser.com/news/1001911/jersey-tweaks-tax-cap-scheme-entice-net-worths

Thanks Philip a hero of the super rich shame about low and middle earners. Hold on they are the ones that will vote you out !

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2017, 11:21:14 PM »
What the hell is ozouf doing going to South Africa.   He is only a backbencher now.

I don't know about a visit to South Africa but it wouldn't surprise me. Since he left his government position his Twitter page shows that he has simply carried on acting as a kind of unofficial head diplomat, supposedly representing the island's interests. If Jersey ever succeeded in gaining membership of the UN, it is not hard to imagine Ozouf as head of a multi-million pound island delegation based in New York but frequently travelling the world. If any Jersey government minister has a meeting with the representative of a foreign government, he retweets it with his own comments, always praising that foreign government even if it has a terrible record on democracy and human rights. This week it was Gorst in Kenya and the Baroness Labey in Rwanda. Next week the elites that we elect (or in Labey's case we don't elect) will no doubt be in another part of the world, making friends with people that we would never in a million years allow to mind our kids for a few hours while we're at the theatre, let alone run countries. That's what this immoral game is all about.

For what it's worth, I have long expected him to leave frontline politics voluntarily and start using his exclusive contacts list of VIPs, diplomats, billionaires and heads of corrupt governments to get himself some really eye-watering international non-executive directorships and maybe set up his own international consultancy business, promising foreign dictators direct access to the leaders that matter in Europe. I reckon he could make at least a million pounds a year from international directorships and consultancies as a result of the relationships he has formed during his government travels. You are not telling me that the thought hasn't crossed his mind at some stage? A piddling £46k a year to be the target of all this abuse, when he could take on a role similar to Tony Blair or unindicted war criminal Henry Kissinger, unaccountable to the electorate but raking in the millions nevertheless...  :-\

http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2017/05/13/ozouf-hints-at-desire-to-return-to-frontline-politics/


« Last Edit: May 14, 2017, 11:26:22 PM by Jerry Gosselin »

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 03:07:21 AM »
I have it on good authority from an accountant that these high net worth individuals really only pay the bare legal limit of £125,000 tax liability by simply restructuring their businesses before moving to Jersey.
I don't know if there is any truth in this but it would be interesting to know how many of these people currently live in the island and how much tax they pay.

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2017, 04:31:48 PM »

If you move to Jersey and qualify for residency you can leave all your wealth ( say for arguments sake £7 million in assets and cash ) to your family friends whoever. In the UK you will be hit with 40% inheritance tax after about £328,000.

Any way you get the drift, who wants to give the tax man around 40% of your lifes earnings or as per the example £2.8 million. There are immigrants far wealthier than just £7 mill.

Plus they may have kids and want a safe place for their family to grow up in especially after recent terrorist act's in cities. Would they pay more tax to live on Jersey ? Of course they would, when you are that wealthy you expect to pay some tax.

It is just the politicians who are miss guided and selling Jersey cheap so that the low and middle earners get the brunt but not the relief.

Senior Civil servants know the wealthy want to protect their wealth but their families are extremly important, it is just Ozouf and his tribe that put the very rich before their own islanders. Off the mark as usual in the distorted, golf playing, Africa visiting, living in London ivory tower grand all important imaginary world of Jerseys" small core of idiot politicians, mainly found amongest the minister benches.

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2017, 05:55:51 PM »
Collective accountability, so why didn't the whole of the CoM's resign?
They have to vote together unless you are bailhache so they should have resigned.

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2017, 03:34:54 AM »
I do quite a bit of work for a high net worth individual,while I obviously don't discuss his own tax affairs his opinion is that 0/10 is crazy and doesn't get the logic behind it.How can you run a society with companies not paying any tax at all.We sunk to the bottom of the barrel making it 0%,probably a kneejerk reaction to the financial crash,thinking finance will flee our shores.We need to look at it again,i'm sure if it was 1-5% tax we might have a few companies leave but the majority would stay.

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Re: Ozouf is back!
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2017, 01:05:02 AM »

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2017, 04:36:13 AM »
What a corrupt undemocratic mess!  >:(

You can't comment on JEP online but you can on bailiwick express, but they rarely publish anti-establishment comments. Is Ozouf a secret editor of either of them?

http://www.bailiwickexpress.com/jsy/news/ozouf-returns/#.WSifece_Fqg


« Last Edit: May 27, 2017, 05:24:26 AM by gladiator »

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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2017, 04:41:27 AM »
They realy don't get it do they ? there is a rich tapestry of internet information about the failings of Ozouf, Nahhh I cannot be botherd to write out the list, but the cost to the island has been considerable.

What really sticks in the gullet is the fact that you and I have to pay for his pleasure of flying almost weekly to London to be with his partner, and also buying him lunch and luxury five star accomodation across the world, when he does not have the confidence of his own people, on their own island. How far out of touch is Gorst and the council of misfits who support this pathetic carry on.

What does it say about the JEP who put the headline up but refuse ( at this time ) to accept comments. Who are they supporting the people or the politician?

You really could not make this sh*te up.

Boatyboy

 
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Re: ozouf not guilty
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2017, 03:10:33 PM »
Well that is gorst gone at the next elections!
Goes to show just how bad the CoM's really are to let ozouf back in. I wonder if gorst got him back so that he had a majority to get the hospital money through.