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Offline Terminator 4

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Is it time for unelected members to go?
« on: January 07, 2009, 08:07:16 PM »
There's a call for a review of the role the Bailiff, Lieutenant Governor and the Dean play in the running of the island.

St Martin deputy Bob Hill is calling for a report into the five unelected members of the government.

That includes the Attorney and Solicitor Generals. They can all speak during States debates.

Deputy Hill says it's time to determine whether a change is needed.

It's estimated a review could cost up to a quarter of a million pounds.

(Sounds a bit of an expensive review though)......

Offline boatyboy

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Re: Is it time for unelected members to go?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2014, 02:05:52 AM »
Borrowed from Bob Hills blog, of course it may be a hoax. As the Dean is paid to do God's work and not the islands work and with 49 States members ( elected to represent Jersey and it's people ) can anyone please explain if the below post is true, did the Chief Minister Gorst have any say and do you actually think they should go all the way to Cameroon at the expense of the taxpayer ???

Will States members be questioning this ridiculous state of affairs in the assembly ?


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I listened to Question Time in the States this morning and could not believe my ears when I heard that the Deputy Bailiff and the Dean were to represent Jersey at the Parliamentary Commonwealth Conference in Cameroon in October.

Why are two unelected Members being sent on to represent the Island and in particular the Dean who is only in the States to lead the prayers at States Sitting.

http://bobhilljersey.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/jerseys-dean-bob-hill-matthew-price.html#comment-form.

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Re: Is it time for unelected members to go?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2014, 02:36:27 AM »
Non-elected, non-voting, appointed by the Crown but paid by Jersey, ex officio members of the States  of Jersey - how cost effective are they for the Jersey population?

As an example, what does the Lieutenant Governor Sir John McColl do for Jersey apart from receiving a salary of £100005, living for free in a mansion, being chauffeured and attending outdated ceremonies ?

I was intrigued when I read below JEP report as my initial thought was, good for him mentioning the increasing divide in the Jersey population between the rich and the poor.

But then what is he going to do about it, if he is that interested? Is he going to give up his cushy retirement job and mansion and campaigning that his post in Jersey should cease or donate his salary to the charities for the poor?

What do the other non-elected and non-voting ex officio members of the States who are appointed by the Crown but paid by the Jersey taxpayers like the Bailiff, Deputy Bailiff, Dean, Attorney General and Solicitor General, do for Jersey?

PUBLISHED: December 6, 2014 7:00 am

Surprising level of poverty in Jersey, says Governor

PEOPLE who have never visited Jersey would be surprised at the level of poverty in the Island and the degree to which people are in need, the Lieutenant-Governor General Sir John McColl has said.

http://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2014/12/06/surprising-level-of-poverty-in-jersey-says-governor/


Some other interesting reading and interviews in my humble opinion:

What does the Lieutenant Governor do for Jersey?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/jersey/hi/people_and_places/the_states/newsid_9132000/9132501.stm


Deputy Sam Mezec Unelected States Members Part 1 (The Dean)

http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/deputy-sam-mezec-unelected-states.html


Are quangos helping Jersey or themselves? What is their purpose?

http://planetjersey.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3822.msg58558.html#msg58558

Offline wakey

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Re: Is it time for unelected members to go?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2014, 09:26:41 PM »
Unelected people in the States should definitely go. If they genuinely wish to represent the people, they should put themselves forward in the accepted manner and wait to be elected. One can't help but wonder at the morals and conscience of such men, and yes, it usually is men, who believe that it is their right to accept payment and to vote and influence our Island by such undemocratic means.