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Regs Skips - Compensation and further action
« on: August 10, 2011, 10:07:00 PM »


THE STATES assembled on Wednesday
3rd November 2010, at 09.30 a.m. under
the Presidency of the Deputy Bailiff,
William James Bailhache, Esquire.

Reg’s Skips Limited – Planning Applications (R.118/2010): compensation and further action
P.130/2010


THE STATES commenced consideration of a proposition of Senator Ben Edward Shenton concerning
the provision of compensation to the proprietors of Reg’s Skips Limited (Reg’s Skips Limited –
Planning Applications (R.118/2010): compensation and further action P.130/2010) and, adopting an
amendment by the Minister for Planning and Environment to paragraphs (a) and (b) of that proposition,agreed that after the words “to approve” there should be inserted the words “, and therefore provide the legal authority for,”.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 32                                             CONTRE: 0                                         ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

463
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

THE STATES rejected an amendment by the Deputy of St. John to paragraph (a) of the proposition that for the sum “£157,000.00” there should be substituted the sum “£249,000”.


Members present voted as follows –


POUR: 21                                              CONTRE: 24                               ABSTAIN: 1

Senator T.J. Le Main                             Senator T.A. Le Sueur              Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Senator B.E. Shenton                             Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon                                Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Connétable of St. John                            Senator F.E. Cohen
Connétable of St. Lawrence                   Senator J.L. Perchard
Deputy of St. Martin                              Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)                Connétable of St. Helier
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)                         Connétable of Trinity
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)                      Connétable of Grouville
Deputy of St. Ouen                                 Connétable of St. Brelade
Deputy of Grouville                               Connétable of St. Saviour
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)                           Connétable of St. Clement
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)                    Connétable of St. Peter
Deputy S. Pitman (H)                               Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)                            Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. John                                   Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy M. Tadier (B)                              Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy of St. Mary                                  Deputy of Trinity
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)                          Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)                        Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)                        Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


THE STATES, adopting an amendment by Senator Francis du Heaume Le Gresley to paragraph (a) of
the proposition, agreed that for the words “to Mr and Mrs R. Pinel, (the proprietors of RSL), as
compensation for costs incurred as set out in R.118/2010;” there should be substituted the words “to
Reg’s Skips Limited being reimbursement of legal fees and other costs incurred until 25th February
2008, as set out in R.118/2010 and a further ex gratia payment of £50,000 to Mr and Mrs R. Pinel, the
directors and beneficial owners of Reg’s Skips Limited, as compensation for pain and suffering caused by the failings in the processes and actions of the Planning and Environment Department over a 4 year period from 2004 to 2008”.

Members present voted as follows –

POUR: 40                                                      CONTRE: 6                               ABSTAIN: 1

Senator P.F. Routier                                       Senator P.F.C. Ozouf                  Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator T.J. Le Main                                     Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator B.E. Shenton                                     Connétable of Trinity
Senator F.E. Cohen                                        Connétable of St. Brelade
Senator A. Breckon                                        Connétable of St. Clement
Senator A.J.H. Maclean                                  Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)

THE STATES resumed consideration of the proposition of Senator Ben Edward Shenton concerning the
provision of compensation to the proprietors of Reg’s Skips Limited (Reg’s Skips Limited – Planning
Applications (R.118/2010): compensation and further action – P.130/2010), as amended.
THE STATES, adopting paragraphs (a) (b) and (c) of the proposition of Senator Ben Edward Shenton, as amended, agreed –

(a) to approve and therefore provide the legal authority for the making of an ex gratia
payment of £157,000.00 to Reg’s Skips Limited being reimbursement of legal fees and
other costs incurred until 25th February 2008, as set out in R.118/2010 and a further
ex gratia payment of £50,000 to Mr and Mrs R. Pinel, the directors and beneficial
owners of Reg’s Skips Limited, as compensation for pain and suffering caused by the
failings in the processes and actions of the Planning and Environment Department over a
4 year period from 2004 to 2008;

(b) to approve and therefore provide the legal authority for the making of an ex gratia
payment of £3,347.00 to Mr C. Taylor (owner of Heatherbrae Farm, St. John), as
compensation for costs incurred as set out in R.118/2010;


(c) to request the Chief Minister, in consultation with the Minister for Treasury and
Resources, to identify funds to meet the cost of the payments in (a) and (b) above;

Members present voted as follows –


POUR: 48                                             CONTRE: 0                          ABSTAIN: 0

Senator T.A. Le Sueur
Senator P.F. Routier
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. Brelade
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)


THE STATES, adopting paragraph (d) of the proposition of Senator Ben Edward Shenton, as amended,agreed –

(d) to request the Minister for Planning and Environment to make provision in the new
Island Plan to enable and encourage the sorting and recycling of inert waste on private
land, in respect of both existing businesses and new entrants to the market;

Members present voted as follows –


POUR: 44                                                CONTRE: 3                                 ABSTAIN: 1
Senator T.A. Le Sueur                             Connétable of St. Brelade              Deputy of St. Mary
Senator P.F. Routier                                Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Senator P.F.C. Ozouf                              Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)
Senator T.J. Le Main
Senator B.E. Shenton
Senator F.E. Cohen
Senator J.L. Perchard
Senator A. Breckon
Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley
Connétable of St. Ouen
Connétable of St. Helier
Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of Grouville
Connétable of St. John
Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement
Connétable of St. Peter
Connétable of St. Lawrence
Connétable of St. Mary
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)
Deputy of St. Martin
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy of Trinity
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)

THE STATES, adopting paragraph (e) of the proposition of Senator Ben Edward Shenton, as amended, agreed –


(e) to request the Chief Minister to request the States Employment Board to investigate the
poor actions of employees in the Planning Department as highlighted in R.118/2010 and
take the necessary action, as appropriate.

Members present voted as follows –


POUR: 33                                           CONTRE: 14                               ABSTAIN: 1

Senator B.E. Shenton                          Senator T.A. Le Sueur                  Connétable of St. Lawrence
Senator J.L. Perchard                          Senator P.F. Routier
Senator A. Breckon                             Senator P.F.C. Ozouf
Senator F. du H. Le Gresley                Senator T.J. Le Main
Connétable of St. Ouen                       Senator F.E. Cohen
Connétable of St. Helier                      Senator A.J.H. Maclean
Connétable of Grouville                      Senator B.I. Le Marquand
Connétable of St. Brelade                   Connétable of Trinity
Connétable of St. John                        Connétable of St. Saviour
Connétable of St. Clement                  Deputy of Trinity
Connétable of St. Peter                        Deputy S.S.P.A. Power (B)
Connétable of St. Mary                       Deputy I.J. Gorst (C)
Deputy R.C. Duhamel (S)                   Deputy A.E. Jeune (B)
Deputy of St. Martin                           Deputy A.T. Dupré (C)
Deputy R.G. Le Hérissier (S)
Deputy J.B. Fox (H)
Deputy J.A. Martin (H)
Deputy G.P. Southern (H)
Deputy of St. Ouen
Deputy of Grouville
Deputy of St. Peter
Deputy J.A. Hilton (H)
Deputy P.V.F. Le Claire (H)
Deputy S. Pitman (H)
Deputy K.C. Lewis (S)
Deputy of St. John
Deputy M. Tadier (B)
Deputy of St. Mary
Deputy T.M. Pitman (H)
Deputy E.J. Noel (L)
Deputy M.R. Higgins (H)
Deputy A.K.F. Green (H)
Deputy J.M. Maçon (S)

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Re: Regs Skips - Compensation and further action
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 07:12:09 PM »
 i now use reg's skips  as he was poorly treated  and suffered un due stress ,and urge others who need a skip to use this person when ask where for a skip?

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Re: Regs Skips - Compensation and further action
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2011, 02:11:44 AM »
Would use him if his prices were competitive.

"Simples".

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Re: Regs Skips - Compensation and further action
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 08:45:44 PM »
 must admit i did not shop around, are they that far between  each other?
at times i will support a under dog , or someone who i feel has had  a bad deal. its part of my moral compass .( i will just fore go  a few pints.)