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Offline Chevalier Blanc

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demonstration
« on: January 15, 2017, 05:20:35 PM »
People are calling for a demonstration in the Royal square on Tuesday 12.30.
I would hope that a large crowd turned up wanting ozouf,farhman.maclean and gorst out of the states.
This island has never been run so badly as in the last few years. It started with ministers and just got worse.
CoM's has completely destroyed this island and it's people.
Never have the people been so badly off!
The taxes they claim are being just thrown away on stupid things.
Where is the tax money from the petrol gone that was to be used for the roads?
Where has the tax on fags gone that was for the countryside?
Well they have gone on crazy ideas that is a wimp of ant minister with no checks etc.
Money for the rich, the bailiff has a pension fund right now standing at over 2M handout then 2/3 of his salary.
Golden handshakes we were told will not be given in future but king £70,000 meant to be 6 months wages but he resigned so he should not get anything!
The CoM's are just keep top civil servants paid off to keep quiet!   
Get out in the Royal Square Tuesday 12.30

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2017, 08:21:03 PM »
Unfortunately. That is bad timing for anyone who doesn't work in St.Helier.I won't be able to make it as i'm sure many other people won't.
I sincerely hope it is a success with as many people as possible there but I think most people who work in St.Helier either work in finance or are cheap immigrant labour so I don't expect any turn out from those groups.Be good if the unions,age concern etc to rally the troops.
Do you know who is organising this?.
What we need is some international news agencies notified to get the spotlight on these corrupt,incompetent muppets,maybe then companies will think twice about doing business here.

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2017, 01:47:28 AM »
THE PHILIP OZOUF EFFECT
THE YEARS OF SCANDAL AND THE FINANCIAL COSTS
Senator Philip Ozouf has had an interesting record of public service in the States since 1999. His early encounters with Terry Le Main were not good as Terry fired him off the then Housing Committee in 2000. These were early days. In 2002, Ozouf was locked in battle with both Rob Duhamel and Ted Vibert resulting in the collapse of the Public Services Committee. This was the same year as the Trinity Infill planning disaster. Ozouf was President.
The following are well documented resignations reported in the local media over the past 10 years. All of these people named had direct connections to Philip Ozouf.
Consider the careers of John Scally and David Margason, both previous chief executives of the former Waterfront Enterprise Board. Both had excellent careers before and afterwards but hit the Ozouf factor or confluence while here. Consider the well-respected Gerald Voisin, who resigned as chairman of the said development company over other issues. Margason now works for an international property development company, heading up its European operations. His experience in Jersey must have been so bad that he does not mention Jersey on his executive summary.
Consider the termination of the Jersey career of the eminent Chris Swinson, FCA, and a fellow of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales and a former President of that Institute. He is presently governor of a UK University among other positions. He was Comptroller and Auditor General here in Jersey and wrote many excellent reports including two very critical reports about the Waterfront and the Limegrove saga. He was critical of Senator Ozouf while he was Treasury Minister. He referred to political interference in the process to find a location for a new Police HQ. States Members and the public then and now never really knew what happened. He departed in a well-documented series of stories in the local media and he has been discreet in staying out of the media and making any further comment.
Consider the careers of previous States Treasurers, Ian Black and Laura Rowley and the interim Treasurer Hugh McGarel Groves. Ian Black resigned in 2010 when Senator Ozouf was Treasury Minister. During Mr Black's 11 years in the post he led the development and implementation of a number of initiatives, including the centralisation of all financial processing, modernised the Public Finances Law and the incorporation of Jersey Telecom and Jersey Post. Laura Rowley was appointed as States Treasurer at the very end of 2010 amid a fanfare of media pronouncements. She was part of the Comprehensive Spending Review 2011-2014 when States spending was slashed for three years. She suddenly resigned in the early summer of 2014, when Senator Ozouf announced the first details of the looming States deficit.
Consider the career of Bill Ogley, the former chief executive to the Council of Ministers. He came to Jersey in 2003 to oversee many changes including the switch to Ministerial Government. He worked for Frank Walker and Terry le Sueur. In 2012, the JEP reported that: “A serious breakdown in the relationship between Treasury Minister Philip Ozouf and former chief executive Bill Ogley led to the civil servant leaving his job with a £546,337 pay-off. ‘Over the last two years a sustained period of interference and harassment by the Deputy Chief Minister and Treasury Minister has made it impossible to do my job to the best of my ability.’ One wonders what else happened there. This termination also involves the same Senator Ozouf or his office. Less than a year later, two highly qualified women, both in senior positions in States Treasury, both left their positions.
Then there are the resignations of David Flowers at Jersey Property Holdings and Stephen Izatt at the States of Jersey Development Company. Resignations came happening quick and fast and little or no information. Both resigned more or less at the same time in 2011. Both were dealing with States property. Both were giving evidence to Sarah Ferguson’s investigation into the Limegrove fiasco at the same time.
It is interesting that Izatt gave evidence to Sarah Ferguson’s investigation into the Limegrove fiasco in September 2011, turned all his files over to that investigation and then abruptly leaves with a big settlement six weeks later. David Flowers also gave evidence in September 2011 and then resigned his position.
There was the resignation of Paul Nichols at Jersey Planning in 2008. He was in Jersey less than two years. He oversaw the commencement of the Waterfront Masterplan and the EDAW regeneration for St. Helier. Unfortunately, he was a casualty of the “Inner Sanctum” that still runs Jersey and was summarily dispatched. He went on to run enormous schemes in the Greater London area, working with Boris Johnson.
Then there was the marginalization of Deputy John Le Fondre of St Lawrence. Le Fondre is a chartered accountant who had many years or experience in private practice before standing for the States in 2005. He disagreed with Philip Ozouf on a number of issues and was an Assistant Minister at Treasury when Ozouf and Gorst got rid of him. He had disagreed with the location of the New Police Station and had carried out a major piece of work to locate the new Police HQ on the Sacre Coeur site at Rouge Bouillon.
The point of all this review is to point out these casualties that fell afoul of Philip Ozouf and his stewardship. The word casualty may be wrong. Some of these men and women will have been glad to be free of the bullying and interference in Jersey that is self-evident in the media reports of the time that are easy to find on the internet. Most of these people named went on to good and even better careers than the ones they had in Jersey.
Most of the problem seems to have been centered directly round Treasury between 2008 and 2014. Treasury in particular has had many problems. Two very senior staff members, D. le G. and W.M. both left abruptly in 2013. The rest is centered on Jersey Property Holdings and the States of Jersey Development company. To some extent, the Director of Planning and Harcourt were part of the fall-out.
Recent problems:-
Harcourt Developments may well feel that a situation was engineered against them to remove them from the JIFC development in Jersey in 2008-2011 at a time when British and Irish banks were collapsing, Northern Rock, Lehman Brothers and Anglo-Irish bank all disappeared into the hands of winding up orders. On reflection It could be argued in any court but in Jersey that the States of Jersey Development Company was convinced or persuaded by parties in senior political positions that commercial property development is easy and the removal of Harcourt by legal means was endorsed by States Members who may have been used as pawns in this drama.
Harcourt completed the new bus station, the apartment hotel above, a business centre, the restoration of the old abattoir and completed the office developments to the west of the abbatoir.It is ironic that Harcourt seemed to have gone on to develop the hugely successful Titanic Quarter in Belfast and now the Titanic Centre in Liverpool in the middle of one of the worst recessions known in almost a century and indeed Dandara developed Castle Quay and other many other well-documented developments in Jersey in the teeth of the same recession.
Most paths lead to Philip Ozouf. The question is why is he still in office? Why does he get the protection of his master Ian Gorst. For whatever reasons, we will never know.
Lastly remember it was Philip Ozouf who told the Assembly in 2014 that work would not commence on the Jersey International Finance Centre until 200,000 sq ft of space had been pre-let. Here we are in 2017 with building 4 just 60% prelet and building 5 with 50%. Both buildings let to tenants who are already here in Jersey and all 3 companies having direct links with the SoJDC board for instance Nicolas Palios the Chairman of SoJDC is a non-executive of Sanne who are signing the prelet to building 5.
If you care about your island, make your voice and your presence felt on Tuesday next the 17th January and be in the Royal Square at 12.30 for an hour or so to tell this Government that Ozouf must GO!

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 12:08:38 AM »
Just a pity this demonstration is being held on a Tuesday at lunchtime. Thousands of folk who want Ozouf ,(And indeed the whole COM), booted out simply wont be able to attend.

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 01:20:47 AM »

Of course people may possibly change their lunch times,  and I have no idea how many work in St Helier but it is thousands, the square probably holds no more than a few hundred therfore those in the country Parishes are more than welcome, but there are enough workers in St Helier to make a good showing.

Look on the bright side Fritz, you only need two - to have a party,  and there will be a lot more there than that.

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2017, 09:56:50 PM »
gorst chickened out from sacking ozouf.  No backbone gorst just took away the assis deputy chief minister title from ozouf.
You can now  see why the island is in the mess it is in with idiot like these two sticking together.
ozouf even left by a side door! gorst nowhere to been seen,

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 01:47:24 AM »
Very true Chavelier.Ozouf should no longer be in government,nor Gorst either for that matter.Ozouf because he is either incompetent or corrupt or both and Gorst because he is a spineless puppet with no leadership skills,how he ever got into the position of Chief Minister I will never know.
Even today there is an article in the Jep by Ben Shenton detailing how Ozouf misapropiated money in 2012 with Mike King as accounting officer.
And today on Channel Report the gormless Gorst saying he will get in an external accountant to review things.
What a ****.
For one the comptroller general has reviewed things and found they are totally screwed up and two Gorst is an external accountant himself,he just doesn't have the balls to sort things out.
They both have to go.

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 04:53:35 AM »
I ask myself why get a QC in to enquiry what went wrong and who is to blame?
The audit general has shown what went wrong and who is to blame.
More thousands sent to try and save ozouf's ass.
When will they sack him. gorst has not got the balls to do it!
Get a Chief Minister that will do the right thing.
People were calling gorst, ozouf out out out!!!!  They left the chamber by a side door bloody cowards!

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 03:15:53 PM »
Well done to those that attended the demonstration.

I have said it before but if Philip Ozouf, Alan Maclean, and Farnham all signed off loans in what is a corrupt innovation fund how can any of them but especially Treasury Minister Maclean say he is in charge of SoJDC or any of the many quangos ?

Alan Maclean must resign along with Ozouf, Gorst and Farnham.

Minister Alan Maclean openly and arrogantly blocks scrutiny from doing their important work ( who could actually save his integrity and honesty ) from checking the books. Alan Maclean took the side of SoJDC  in blocking scrutiny and is doing the same with the proposed hospital project.

Alan Maclean is either thick, arrogant or corrupt especially after the lessons supposed to have be learned previously and now with the failings of this innovation fund farce.

Nope Alan Maclean Treasury Minister still believes through his rose coloured glasses that all the highly paid civil servants and remunerated board members cannot nor will do anything wrong and should not be accountable. Let us hope States members are far wiser.

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« Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 02:36:19 AM by boatyboy »

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 07:33:36 PM »
A get out clause for gorst by just taken away the deputy chief minister position from ozouf. So ozouf just carries on as usual . The people want him out!!!
Also maclean, farnham and gorst to go!!!!!!!!! They have destroyed this island and it's people by the way they have been going about things
Finance centre that has not been fully rented oput and still they are going to build the next block.
This island will never see any money from this centre.
If only the people were to rise up in the thousands and march on to the royal square to make them resign because that is all that would be needed.

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 10:38:26 PM »
I guess the QC being brought in is because the council of ministers have many friends who are QCs etc.

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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2017, 02:03:21 AM »
Very true.
,and today we have the latest scandal that borrowing money for the hospital might be illegal as pointed out by Tracy Vallois.No wonder they didn't want scrutiny to have time to look at it.Apparently government is not allowed to borrow more than its income less debt,apparently the £400 million+ they want to borrow will exceed this.Now just watch them manipulate the figures to comply.Just like how they exceeded the the legal levels of nitrates in our water so instead of addressing the problem they just upped the legal limit.This government is rotten to the core.

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2017, 05:54:44 AM »
This demonstration was kindly sponsored by the Committee to (re-)elect Sean Dooley-Power 2018, with the kind assistance of the Committee to re-elect Sam Mezec 2018.

Dooley supplied the expensive-looking megaphone and his trademark pithily-worded topical placards.

Mezec supplied the fake anger, trademark bad haircut and even that memorably-aggressive pointy finger and should surely be nominated for a BAFTA.

Ozouf (allegedly) supplied the chopped onion under his jacket to give his speech that extra sense of emotion.  :'(

Thankfully all the pensioners stayed on script (i.e. only attack Ozouf or other COM members but not, for example, any other States Members who might be just as compromised and guilty but happened to be involved in organising this demo).

Those several dozen pensioners who turned up supplied the required political naivety. They reminded me a bit of that crowd of worshippers who blindly followed Brian everywhere in The Life of Brian ... only this lot worship Dooley and Mezec (and any other politician who steps forward and claims to be the Messiah).

Only in Jersey could you get street demos against middle class legislators organised, funded and attended (in their lunch hour) by fellow middle class legislators! ::)

As for the Prince of Darkness himself, I think the clue is in the words "step aside". He's obviously planning to be back some time. Everyone knows that when a government starts to get seriously unpopular, one or two of those government incumbents can sometimes find themselves unceremoniously dumped come election time, particularly if they've got the Planning remit. Being no longer associated with that government for a year or so beforehand could well help Ozouf to scrape back in next year - and if he does he'll be straight back in eating at that lavishly-funded top table again.  :(
« Last Edit: January 19, 2017, 06:05:20 AM by Jerry Gosselin »

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2017, 04:15:36 PM »
Smack on the money Jerry.How anybody can trust Dooley Power always amazes me,he is just an establishment goon masquerading as some sort of populist leader,smoke and mirrors garnished with a few red herrings the new "Jersey way".Believe the Magic!http://planetjersey.co.uk/forum/Smileys/default/sad.gif

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Re: demonstration
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2017, 09:30:45 PM »

Interesting post is it tongue in cheek Jerry ?

Please let us all know - what you would have done in the circumstances regarding Philip Ozouf and the council of ministers  regarding the innovation fund farce and the squandering of tax payers money ?

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