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Offline boatyboy

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Should Jersey conduct business with the Saudi Government ?
« on: January 05, 2016, 03:51:04 PM »
Should Senator Bailhache and CM Gorst  ( both religious and Christian believers ) followed by other Jersey Ministers, be constantly zipping off to Saudi to conduct business and involve Jersey, when the regime has just executed  forty seven people ? These include sex outside of marriage being punishable by 100 lashes. I suggest that would be enough to kill a young female.

How about the values, laws and democratic values that we hold being alien to the Saudi leadership.

If Hitler ( as Germany's chancellor ) was alive today and behaved regarding persecution and human rights violation, would the UK or Jersey be happy doing business as usual, or is it a case of just give us the money ?

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“The Saudi government systemically abuse human rights,” said Farron, referring to the UN post Riyadh was given in September. “They cannot be the chair of the UN committee safeguarding fundamental rights. Britain and other nations cannot continue to sit in meetings with them knowing that people are being executed and persecuted by the kingdom while they judge other nations on human rights.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/04/lib-dems-and-labour-urge-cameron-to-withdraw-saudi-arabia-support

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There is not a strictly codified uniform set of laws that can be called Sharia. It is more like a system of several laws, based on the Qur'an, Hadith and centuries of debate, interpretation and precedent.
Islamic shariah is not implemented in any country of the world, most Muslim countries have their own laws & chosen only few of laws from Islamic shariah.


Sharia Law for beginners.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_law#Laws_and_practices_under_Sharia

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Re: Should Jersey conduct business with the Saudi Government ?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2016, 04:31:26 PM »
i am sure if  they applied for some office space they would be welcomed with open arms .
 Arabia   is  now   a ticking time bomb  imho .
 

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Re: Should Jersey conduct business with the Saudi Government ?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 12:44:46 AM »
I seem to remember either Ozouf or Lee Henry saying there is interest in the finance centre offices from a middle east bank.How would this go down with the island if it was announced that a lease had been drawn up with a Saudi Bank.
Would it bring the island in the firing line of Sunnis versus Shiates.I think the negative effects of doing any business with the middle east far outway any potential (only ) financial gains.Why can't we just keep our head down,what is this obsession with the council of ministers to sell out the island to any bidder.It all smacks of desperation.

Offline Jerry Gosselin

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Re: Should Jersey conduct business with the Saudi Government ?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 08:25:27 AM »
Having survived a never-ending and typically baffling speech by Gino Risoli last week at the Arts Centre, Owen Jones now turns his attention to another sort of atrocity - the type that is currently being committed by the Saudis in Yemen (only joking Gino):

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Bombing raids have shredded the country’s healthcare system: 130 medical facilities have been targeted, including those run by Médecins Sans Frontières – “a total disregard for the rules of war”, as MSF says itself. The risk of famine looms: the UN believes more than 14 million people are food insecure, half of them severely so, while nearly one in 10 have been driven from their home.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/28/britain-war-yemen-saudi-arabia-military-advisers

Offline Jerry Gosselin

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Re: Should Jersey conduct business with the Saudi Government ?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2016, 05:47:38 PM »
The Jersey Dispatch Blog has been highlighting links between members of Jersey's Council of Ministers and Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar that have been accused of sponsoring terrorist organisations like Islamic State.

The extract below, referring to a visit to Jersey in 2014 by the Turkish Ambassador to the UK, seems quite apt, given the news this week that Turkey's largest circulation newspaper, Zaman, whose editorial stance was critical of the Turkish government, has been forcibly taken over and now adopted a new pro-government stance:

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Turkey’s Ambassador to the United Kingdom, Unal Çeviköz, visited Jersey in January 2014. His delegation included Turkey’s chief economic counsellor and representatives from Istanbul’s banking exchange and Turkey’s Capital Markets Board. He met with States members and attended a dinner hosted by the Deputy Bailiff, William Bailhache, and stayed as a guest of the Lieutenant Governor, General Sir John McColl, at Government House.

However, recent revelations have come to light in an explosive new article by British investigative journalist Nafeez Ahmed. In it he makes the strong case that Turkey has been harboring and aiding ISIS members. He references the deputy speaker of the German parliament Claudia Roth who expressed shock that NATO was allowing Turkey to harbour an ISIS camp in Istanbul, facilitate weapons transfers to Islamist militants through its borders, and tacitly support ISIS oil sales.

In a a July article in the Guardian this year it highlighted a ‘senior western official’ who has viewed evidence obtained during an ISIS raid that shows ‘undeniable’ dealings between Turkish officials and ranking Isis members and that “the links are already so clear that they could end up having profound policy implications for the relationship between us and Ankara.”

https://jerseydispatch.wordpress.com/


https://twitter.com/JerseyDispatch


It is refreshing to come across a local Blog like this. Well researched, serious criticism of Jersey's attempts at creating an international personality for itself by cosying up to wealthy regimes with terrible human rights records, whilst Ozouf and Gorst make rather hypocritical public statements of sympathy and support with the people of France following last year's terror attacks.

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Offline shortport

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Re: Should Jersey conduct business with the Saudi Government ?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2016, 01:46:37 AM »
good blog.
How did you find it?Good to read reporting you would never find in the JEP.
Our island has really become a sad place since the invention of the finance industry.It really has sold its soul to the highest bidders.

Offline Jerry Gosselin

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Re: Should Jersey conduct business with the Saudi Government ?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2016, 06:14:40 PM »
good blog.
How did you find it?Good to read reporting you would never find in the JEP.


I probably came across Jersey Dispatch when one of their tweets was re-tweeted by another Jersey Twitter user. I then went to the Jersey Dispatch Twitter page to check it out and discovered the accompanying Blog.

Offline Chevalier Blanc

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Re: Should Jersey conduct business with the Saudi Government ?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2016, 12:35:42 AM »
Money calls the tune every time for our government!    How many of them have their fingers in the pie to make themselves more money?