A POLL INVITES YOUR OPINION AT THE START OF THIS ARTICLE.
In an effort to keep this as short as possible in a world of information overload I offer this final episode of “ Another fantasy or just a bad dreamThe Builder.
In general conversation with an experienced builder friend I happened to mentioned the West Park Pool he added greatly.
He explained that when building a modern structure you need stamped industry approved materials that comply. This includes materials like insulation, Tiles, wood, laminates, concrete blocks or bricks of a certain density. Double glazing, central heating systems, and electrical wiring systems. A lot goes into a build he said with many different trades being involved.
He had seen the figure of £315,000 in the paper weeks before and wondered how patching up an existing wall, with stone and concrete using basic materials and skills, could cost so much, I pointed out that a bunker was to be converted for storage and probably a loo, again he said it is not in the middle of a field it is close to all main services, and the bunker is there already.
It appears here that in fact the wall and gate repairs cost just over a quarter of a million.Quote
The project was put out to tender in March and three Contractors submitted bids, the lowest being from Rateavon Jersey Ltd in the sum of £258,000. http://www.jerseymarinelake.co.uk/news/marine-lake-contractor-chosen/
This then raises the question what happened to the other £57,000 as TTS have excellent engineers ( some ex harbour office ) that could copy and improve the old sluice gates and are employed full time and could easily have rebuilt or fabricated new sluice gates.The Bosdet Foundation.
Mike Walker Manager of The Bosdet Foundation have formed a trust, with an “ obligation “ to fund the operation of the pool for five years.Quote:
And finally the Bosdet Foundation committed to operate the lake with an annual net subsidy of £50,000 per year for 5 years. The Foundation is keen to see youth, older residents, families, and less able people of the island have the opportunity to enjoy swimming and a range of other aquatic activities that will enrich their lives.
The Bosdet Foundation is operating the lake with beach life guards, aquatic activities, and community programmes at no cost to the tax payer on behalf of the
Parish of St Helier.http://www.jerseymarinelake.co.uk/about/funding/
No doubt the Bosdet foundation, a charity using profits from various commercial enterprises is a welcome partner and does excellent work in other charitable areas. I spoke on the phone with Mike Walker who was not a happy man.It did not go well.
He said the pool had been well used by three to four hundred people a day and I was in danger of embarrassing myself. Confirmed facts work for me, not words. He then went on to correctly point out that Fort Regent is subsidized by £500,000 a year and so is the Aquasplash so what is the problem with the pool and spending the publics money by implication ?
Again north and south opinions.
The fact is that both the Fort and Aqua are year round amenities that do not suffer because of nature ie bad weather or tidal variation. This fact has been put on the back burner by Bosdet, I doubt very much that they will be there in two years time maybe they should have taken more notice.
Clearly the profits they make from commercial businesses would be better spent on other charity projects. It would be outrageous if the States subsidized the running of the pool through grants to Bosdet foundation giving the impression of jobs for the boy’sThe Constable Simon Crowcroft
In the original telephone conversation with Mr Pierre Horsfall he commented that the Bosdet Charity organisation would contribute £50,000 pounds a year over five years and The Constable had pledged a further £20,000 over the same period. I wondered if the monthly town hall assembly had voted for this extra £100,000 but never received a response from either of the two Procureur du Bien Public whom I emailed and asked. Again these figure are confirmed in the on line blurb.Quote:
To this end Bosdet have offered to be responsible for contributing £50,000 per year for five years and the Parish will contribute £20,000 per year for maintenance of the Lake. This agreement should shortly be finalised and its operation will be overseen by the Marine Lake Purpose Trust.http://www.jerseymarinelake.co.uk/news/marine-lake-project-update/Senator Paul Routier.
He was chairman of the Havre Des Pas working group when the pool was refurbished some time back. It was decided at a public meeting before work started that it would be helpful if members of the public got involved to input into what was to be an update and large investment in the facility. Having the concession for the funboats there and also running Longbeach windsurfing it was felt I may be of some use and was invited onto the panel.
The minutes will show that a discussion took place regarding the disabled use of the pool. I was in favour of disabled facilities as there are changing facilities a café and large building structure. It was suggested that a sea pool was no conducive due to the problems of a less able bodied person being able to keep or maintain body warmth. Also wheelchairs do not like beaches. The chairmen Paul Routier did not disagree and contributed to what we felt was a worth while discussion so the motion was turned down and today you will see there are no built in special facilities for the disabled at Havre des Pas pool.
How odd is it that with his experience as chairman of the Havre des Pas panel in the publicity pre build brochure ( now removed ) Senator Routier writes.Quote:
“Senator Paul Routier, who was awarded an MBE for services to people with learning disabilities, sees
the proposed Marine Lake as a way of permanently building on that legacy.
‘Having returned from the opening ceremony of the Paralympics full of inspiration and enthusiasm for continuing the drive to ensure that people with disabilities can participate in as many sports as possible, I am really excited to hear of the plans to refurbish the Marine Lake at West Park. It is also very pleasing to hear that the plan is to ensure that people with disabilities will also be encouraged to take part in water sports. I do hope that the public will support the proposal to restore the Marine Lake for the benefit of all our community.’
May I add that in my report to Mr Horsfall I asked
5) What other locations around Jersey could offer similar activity. If they do not, why not ?
The expert panel should have considered the obvious question and Senator Routier should with his experiance Of Havre des Pas needs to explain his new enthusiasm.Senator Philip Ozouf.
Senator Ozouf again was very receptive to the emails and I thank him for taking the time. The first email he sent was on April the 10th the last September 28th. It is my understanding that Treasury Minister Ozouf acts like the umbilical cord that connects the States to the independently run quangos like SoJDC, JT etc. as they are operated at arms length from Jerseys' Government.
As treasurer he can veto or approve any spending on big ticket items. He confirmed this in his emails.
This issue however is about using £100,000 in safe keeping with the SoJDevelopment Company to fund a dream that offers little benefit in my opinion.
As it is a public interest issue, I have asked if the emails can be released but Senator Ozouf is not at all keen and as such ignored my requests. I also asked to see the minutes of the board meeting at SoJDC regarding discussions on this subject, again no response.
I feel it would not be appropriate to print the emails but offer the message instead. The contents are about a public facility using the publics tax pound so the gist of his reply on the 28th September informs that he goes to great lengths and much detail as a shareholder which he takes very seriously. He makes it clear the strictness which he lays down regarding public spending I hope you grasp the message I did.
Is it not strange that on April 10th Six months earlier, Senator Ozouf sent a far shorter email, wrote that he " really didn’t know much about this "
Although the Treasury Minister constantly reminds us he is looking after the “ publics money “ in this issue there is no evidence to support his words.
Fritz - a long time planet Jersey member states another states overspend nothing new time to move on.
However when pensioners and low to middle income individuals and families are about to be “ hit “ with further taxes , with an increase in user pays front line charges, and on the table is an increase in GST which affects all basic commodities even food.
I feel comfortable and humble in being able to put this information into the public domain. Something I believe the Jersey Evening Post, ITV Channel or BBC Jersey radio should have done as professionals in or around the 10th April 2014. They had all the information and apposing view supported with facts, but decided to report nothing. How is this in the public interest, the same public that keeps them in work.
I am just an amateur, and not that good but I hope you have more information now to decide if the refurbishment is a good idea or “ Another fantasy or just a bad dream “ which is a ridiculous title as it appears the film fantasy debacle and £200,000 cheque giveaway, was the decision of a couple of people almost in secret. Mr Horsfall and others received a report which had serious questions asked before a mix of cement had been laid and did nothing.