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Child Pornography - A Pittance of a Sentence
« on: May 07, 2012, 06:29:04 PM »
This story caught my attention from its contents and my astonishment at the leniency of the Courts:

http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/05/05/ex-youth-worker%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98disturbing%E2%80%99-haul-of-pornography/

A FORMER youth worker and junior rugby coach has been jailed after being caught with one of the most disturbing stashes of child pornography ever found in Jersey. Mark Maguire, a former Jersey Rugby Club youth coach, was jailed for 2½ years by the Royal Court after admitting he had a fascination with indecent images of children. He was also placed on the Sex Offenders Register for a minimum of five years.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of making indecent images of children and a further charge of possessing cannabis after a small amount of the drug was found in his flat.

According to the full addition of the JEP amongst the material found in this man's computer was a 12 month old baby being bound and raped.
Home made footage of children filmed in a playground.  A total of 1,746 indecent files made up of 1,005 movies including children being forced to have sex with animals.

DO YOU THINK TWO AND HALF YEARS IN JAIL IS ENOUGH FOR SUCH A HEINOUS CRIME?

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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 06:58:12 PM »
I couldn't agree with you more. The sentences handed out for these crimes can only make one wonder if there are underlying reasons why the courts don't use the full power at their disposal. The lenient sentences obviously reflect the court's feelings that these are trifling matters, and as one well known local man said "the perks of the game".  The wrong messages are being sent out to all these perverts by the very people who should know better, and have the power to make a difference.


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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 08:15:39 PM »
I couldn't agree with you more. The sentences handed out for these crimes can only make one wonder if there are underlying reasons why the courts don't use the full power at their disposal. The lenient sentences obviously reflect the court's feelings that these are trifling matters, and as one well known local man said "the perks of the game".  The wrong messages are being sent out to all these perverts by the very people who should know better, and have the power to make a difference.

Wakey they should wake up but it would appear there are nonos all over the place in Jersey.  Why should the Courts be any different.  Having seen the recorded interview recently where former States member Daniel Wimberly was interviewed by Rico Sorda - on being questioned Daniel Wimberley said that although quite a few of his questions went through quite easily and he didn't get any obstructions some of his questions hit a brick wall and it became clear pretty damn quick that there are some things that the 'powers that be' like to keep under wraps!

Here is the very good interview I am talking about on blogtv

http://www.blogtv.com/Shows/2833013/ZmPuZu_tZGFtZe7vb2NF&pos=ancr

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 11:44:16 PM »
Hi Stuntman.You say this is the tenth case in a year.That seems a hell of a lot.When reading this case in the JEP i was thinking that there are so many of these cases over here and is it justa Jersey thing or do other places have such a high amount per head of population.There seem to be far too many of these sickos in Jersey,maybe they're attracted here by the lenient sentencing if caught.Its terrible to think that many of these twisted individuals have worked with children in the island.

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 12:27:49 AM »
Hi Calimachon, I watched this interview on Friday and I do not see how it has anything to do with the sentencing powers of the Court and really the ex Deputy has nothing to do with States business anymore so when anybody no longer in the States comes on I just switch off, sorry.
In relation to this crime I just find it harrowing that somebody could do such things to a child, film it and then a third party can be aroused by then watching it.  Many of these children end up being killed if the pornography is made in places of civil unrest.   5 years on a sex offenders register is not enough, it should be life.  Court sentencing not just in Jersey but the UK has to get tougher to stop this kind of exploitation as its the tenth case of its kind in Jersey in a space of a year and the lenient sentences have remained consistent.

It has everything to do with the Courts.  The Judiciary rule everything in the island.

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 05:38:36 AM »
They should not be released at all, until they have completed treatment, and are deemed to be safe for release.  That would mean some of them staying in jail for life.

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 06:47:52 PM »
The ex-Deputy of St Mary was a much respected and well researched States Member who perhaps is able to give us more insight into a variety of matters than we can glean ourselves. The same goes for ex-Deputy Bob Hill, and why, just because they are no longer members of our 'government' should they not be entitled to voice their thoughts and opinions.

As for child porn/paedophiles etc these sick individuals usually continue on their perverted course when their sentence is finished. Find a remote island in shark infested waters throw them all on it and forget them.

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 12:40:14 AM »
Maybe the reason for a soft sentence is that the members of the elite over here along with the establishment members are afraid that if they are ever caught for cover ups or abusing children they would use the soft sentences as a guide for themselves.

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 12:33:48 PM »
This story caught my attention from its contents and my astonishment at the leniency of the Courts:

http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/05/05/ex-youth-worker%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98disturbing%E2%80%99-haul-of-pornography/

A FORMER youth worker and junior rugby coach has been jailed after being caught with one of the most disturbing stashes of child pornography ever found in Jersey. Mark Maguire, a former Jersey Rugby Club youth coach, was jailed for 2½ years by the Royal Court after admitting he had a fascination with indecent images of children. He was also placed on the Sex Offenders Register for a minimum of five years.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of making indecent images of children and a further charge of possessing cannabis after a small amount of the drug was found in his flat.

According to the full addition of the JEP amongst the material found in this man's computer was a 12 month old baby being bound and raped.
Home made footage of children filmed in a playground.  A total of 1,746 indecent files made up of 1,005 movies including children being forced to have sex with animals.

DO YOU THINK TWO AND HALF YEARS IN JAIL IS ENOUGH FOR SUCH A HEINOUS CRIME?

I don't know, two years does sound like a long time to me. Plus, I read that prisoners really don't like "nonces" so they'll probably make his life hell. The important thing is we got to him before he could actually harm a child.

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 09:04:48 PM »
Renegade is wrong assuming that this paedophile  hadn't actually harmed any children. Every photo that was taken of those hundreds of children, for the gratification of perverts, is an act of torture and that will never be erased from their innocent minds.

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 09:31:18 PM »
Hanging or castration?
Not being an expert I would recomend a  quick bullet to the head , but thats just me.
Is this perversion curable? Thats one thing, the other thing is  has this individual moved from fantasy to reality , thats another thing.
Thus far ,as far as we know ,he has not , but not withstanding his human rights etc etc and bleeding heart ,liberal ,tree hugging ethics perhaps to be on the safe side,option three?
Do thought crimes become real crimes? no idea , don,t care ,as they said in Vietnam,kill them all let God sort them out.

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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2012, 12:12:38 AM »
Renegade is wrong assuming that this paedophile  hadn't actually harmed any children. Every photo that was taken of those hundreds of children, for the gratification of perverts, is an act of torture and that will never be erased from their innocent minds.

As wrong as I find kiddy porn, he wasn't responsible for harming those children although he was obviously encouraging others to. Two years sounds like a pretty long time to spend in the slammer, particularly when every con is going to want to kick your ass for being a pedo.

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2012, 03:39:38 PM »
As wrong as I find kiddy porn, he wasn't responsible for harming those children although he was obviously encouraging others to. Two years sounds like a pretty long time to spend in the slammer, particularly when every con is going to want to kick your ass for being a pedo.

Any kind of kiddy porn activity should be harshly dealt with.  In fact I am one of many people who feel that kiddy porn will never be stamped out unless authorities use harsh methods of discipline and advertise the fact that harsh methods will be used against them.  What other kind of deterent is there available apart from incarceration for life and castration.  My main worry with the stance I take is if a person is accused wrongly so every care would have to be taken before a person is found guilty.

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