Author Topic: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?  (Read 20438 times)

Offline Bentos

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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #135 on: November 14, 2013, 02:00:58 PM »

Well I am glad that you are able to spell libel, perhaps it might lead to further reading so that you might discover what it means.

While you are at it it might be a good idea to form a study group with Cyril who appears to think that "deformation" is a legal term. Maybe he has something against the disabled and wants to legislate against them? Still it is best to avoid words like deformed and deformity as they are now considered rather outmoded terms and are certainlt not PC. 

By the way do you know anything about the four people of whom you write other than what you read on other blogs?

 

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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #136 on: November 15, 2013, 02:45:30 AM »
Come on Bentosser, name one free blog platform registered in Jersey that Stuart Syvret could have chosen instead of blogger, it's an easy question.
show us your assertions have some small amount of merit.

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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #137 on: November 15, 2013, 03:09:15 AM »

Now people,

Play nice, no nasty personal comments please,

You are better than that and so is PJ.

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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #138 on: November 15, 2013, 03:26:11 AM »
Sorry Shrek.

Offline Bentos

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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #139 on: November 15, 2013, 03:35:45 AM »
I am not an IT expert and have no interest whatsoever on blog platforms. I leave that to girlfriendless geeks in darkened rooms.

I am however interested in the damage done by malicious and unproven allegations that can be made using a medium that allows for no legal remedy for those accused.

What is the law of "deformation" by the way? Sounds like the sort of eugenics stuff the national socialists came out with in the thirties.

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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #140 on: November 15, 2013, 03:58:48 AM »

Bentos,

You have obviously not read Stuart Syvret's blog regarding Nurse M or Jon Howarth which have evidence offered. I missed the other two written by him.

Again you ask another strange question saying "  using a medium that allows for no legal remedy for those accused "

That is frankly a very silly question, should you read the blogs you will know that the Pitmans went to court over a cartoon they found offensive and Stuart Syvret could and should have been taken to court using the libel law if the four had wanted to clear their names, and had nothing to hide ?

Maybe you are not much interested in debate, or other peoples points of view, and as your comments clearly show, your back ground knowledge on these subjects is weak. I suggest you read up a lot more to make reasoned comments or clearly like Jon Howarth you are just a troll.

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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #141 on: November 15, 2013, 04:09:47 AM »
The whole point is that because his blog is not registered here no court action can be launched here.

Any libel action has to be heard where the offence occurred and that legally is where the blog is registered.

I have posted this before.

And by the way allegations published by SS are not proof.



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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #142 on: November 15, 2013, 04:28:55 AM »

That is why the Jersey data law 2005 was invented. I suggest you write to Emma Martin's and tell her she cannot take anyone from Jersey to court.

Then write to the prison and tell them to release Syvret.

Then write to MP John Hemming, thanking him, and telling him that you agree with him, the case should have been heard in the country where the blog is registered, but there would then be no case because they do not have a Data Protection Law designed like Jersey.

Good luck with that, let us know how you get on.

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Re: Outsiders showing a healthy or unhealthy interest in the jailing of Syvret ?
« Reply #143 on: November 15, 2013, 04:46:14 AM »
Being accused of not being well researched by someone who thinks that " liable " is a legal term is a bit much.

Every view you express is cloned from someones else's blog. Why do you refer to this Howarth guy as Stella Jon, you blindly repeat what Syvret and Pitman write? What do you know of Nurse M other than what is written on these blogs, do you ever do your own research?

To blindly believe what others write on their blogs without question is not a great idea whoever the author is.

On this site today I have been abused and called a troll. It's funny how this is the stock response of those too dim to think up a reasoned, creative or even witty response.

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The four proxies named below in a Westminster early day motion, had every right to take Stuart Syvret to court using established libel law. Was his information correct or not. Syvret would have called witnesses, would have produced evidence and placed his information in the public domain for inspection. They would have then, if successful, cleared their names and lessened the popularity of Stuart Syvret. A secret trial based on strange interpretation of the Jerseys' data protection law, financed by the taxpayer took place instead.

An early day motion placed in the public domain and freely available from November 2013
 
Early day motion 685

That this House notes that Stuart Syvret who was previously elected as a senator in Jersey has been imprisoned for three months for making allegations on his blog about Andrew Marolia, David Minty, David Wherry and Jonathan Sharrock Haworth, who had previously obtained a super-injunction against him under the Data Protection (Jersey) Law 2005; further notes that the use of this law would cover all allegations whether they are true or not; believes that this is a chilling affront to freedom of speech and that before someone could be imprisoned for making allegations it should be shown that the allegations made are not true; further notes that Jersey still does not have a system of private prosecution, nor does it have the facility to judicially review prosecutory decisions;

End.

It would have been much to the credit of Jerseys home affairs Minister ( for justice ? ) Ian Le Marquand or Chief Minister Gorst,  had  they followed  the UK latest legislation in adopting new laws,  which work against Jersey’s special use of the Data Protection law and protect freedom of speech.

BBC

Part of the article.

The changes - coming in on 1 January - will also address "libel tourism".

The government said the law would reverse the "chilling effect" current libel laws have had on freedom of expression and legitimate debate.
Journalists, scientists and academics have faced unfair legal threats for fairly criticising a company, person or product in the past, the Ministry of Justice said.
It said the Act would provide "clearer, better protection for people publicly expressing opinions", while campaigners said it was "good news for free speech" but urged Northern Ireland to follow suit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25551640

Looking at the new legal changes now in place in the UK does this not make Jersey’s laws look frankly outdated and redundant ?

Will the Council of Ministers be announcing a change to best practise in line with the UK.

If not why not ?

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