Author Topic: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?  (Read 8175 times)

Offline Dundee

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2010, 02:06:37 AM »
Put it this way then if people wore cycle helmets then this might equate to one paying less social.

The cost of medical and after care can and does run into a considerable amount, to cover a number of things including specialist hospitals and rehabilitation. Not to mention the the shock and sorrow that victims family and friends go through, for this last reason alone the wearing of a helmet should be encouraged, as much as I am against bringing in regulations I think this is one case where it should be implemented.

I hope those against this proposition never experience someone close to them suffering a head injury from cycling.

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2010, 02:11:01 AM »
Uh, ok I can see what I wrote and what I meant are totally different. What I meant was that I thought I paid my social in order that should I need hospital treatment, regardless of why, it is because of my contributions and from others that I am able to benefit from free hospital treatment.

I hope that explains it better and you can answer the queation i intended to make. thanks.

I doubt you have or will pay enough to personally cover for the scenario of a brain injury requiring you to be flown to Southampton, requiring several scans, an operation that may or may not heal an injury, and the associated after care.

Ignorance is bliss in your case.

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2010, 02:15:46 AM »
Sorry did,nt mean to be rude, was just comparing the roles of cyclist and driver, both entitled to free health care of course regardless of how they may require it, the only difference being , drivers do pay insurance , are required to maintain certain speeds , must wear a seat belt and must be in a road worthy car,  they are not allowed a shortcut across the pavement , nor may they push their car through a red light ,the brakes have to work by law as well as the lights , they need to carry a big number front and back so that they can be reported if they are deficient in any of the foregoing;Apart from all that , good luck to cyclists i say ,,,,,tree hugging commie, pinko , liberal guardian reading malingering criminals one and all.

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2010, 02:19:29 AM »
Thing is Dundee is that not everyone who pays social requires treatment in a hospital here or southampton, therefore should I refuse to pay it or request a refund if in old age if I never had reason to call upon the fund.

Ignorance is bliss, I agree but unless I have got the reason I pay social for wrong then I am not being ignorant, or am I!!

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2010, 02:26:21 AM »
I think cyclists should only be allowed on the road if they hold a current, valid ,Driving License.

Regardless of your chosen mode of transport, you should be suitably qualified .

Same goes for pedestrians who wish to cross or walk on roads.

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2010, 02:37:40 AM »
Sparticus,

No worries, not offended or anything. Besides, I agree with you, I get sick of cyclists who are complete idiots thinking they can do as they please, cycling on the pavements, down no entries etc without at the very least getting off the bike when there is a pedestrian or car coming the other way. But, I also get annoyed with car drivers who seem to think that unless they overtake the cyclist asap they might not get to their destination on time, nevermind the traffic jam fifty metres ahead!!

Its a funny debate the cyclist versus the motorist.

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2010, 02:40:12 AM »
I think cyclists should only be allowed on the road if they hold a current, valid ,Driving License.

Regardless of your chosen mode of transport, you should be suitably qualified .

Same goes for pedestrians who wish to cross or walk on roads.

Hear hear, and all drivers made to cycle and walk a road as part of the test  ;D


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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2010, 02:42:45 AM »
Ah Fritz, there is also such a thing as the cycling proffiency test if thats still going. Maybe there could also be an equivalent Road crossing proficiancy test. God how do you spell proficiancy!!

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2010, 02:46:07 AM »
Cyclists cause traffic jams. FACT.
Modern cars designed to run efficiently at "Normal", speed run inefficiently when queueing up at 5mph ,(or less), behind some two-wheeled tree-hugger, (Listening to whale noises on their ipod), thinking they are doing their bit to save the planet. FACT.

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2010, 02:47:11 AM »
I agree with you on that Dundee, if all motorists were made to know how it feels to be overtaken on a bicycle by a car only inches from them then perhaps they would understand how dangerous it is and give some room instead of being so desparate to overtake the stupid hinderance in front of them ;D

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2010, 02:51:44 AM »
Oh my god Fritz you just made me laugh. Cyclists cause traffic jams I have heard it all now. A traffic JAM is caused when traffic is brought to a halt, normally due to traffic lights or an accident (oh maybe it was a bike accident). I think what you are referring to is merely a bit of slow moving traffic whilst the driver at the front, behind the cyclist, is waiting for a safe place to overtake!

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2010, 03:02:27 AM »
Ah Fritz, there is also such a thing as the cycling proffiency test if thats still going. Maybe there could also be an equivalent Road crossing proficiancy test. God how do you spell proficiancy!!

I,m not very profficient in the spelling department.
I have no idea how to spell profficiency, I,ll have to look out my old badge that proves I can ride a bicycle safely on the road. (Not that I,ve ever wanted to since I got my souped up Rangey).

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2010, 03:04:39 AM »
Cycling is a very good form of exercise, perhaps you should get off your fat arse and try it Fritz, you might get through the traffic a bit quicker, instead of having road rage at the tail.

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2010, 03:20:13 AM »
I dont get road rage, I quite simply overtake whoever is driving, (or cycling), too slowly ahead of me.
I have customised my ,"Steps", to take out cyclists without scratching my cars bodywork.
I do not have a ,"Fat Arse", because I can get to and fro to the gym easily thanks to my fast ."Cyclist-proof", car.

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Re: Should we all have to wear cycle helments by law ?
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2010, 03:25:54 AM »
Oh so Fritz are you saying you are one of those must get past the cyclist even if it kills me, i got a 4 x 4 but wont dream of using it in mud god help me if it gets wet because it might not work range rover drivers