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Offline moot

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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2009, 08:06:52 PM »
Talking about the media

Tonight's Channel Report covered the public filming politicians and perhaps in future scrutiny meetings
Sarah Ferguson was interviewed and in conversation said about anonymous bloggers " In Jersey we happen to know how us behind them"
It might well me nothing but perhaps Sarah could explain here how exactly " Jersey" would find out..

Watch for yourself and see what you think :

http://www.channelonline.tv/channelonline_jerseynews/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=405270

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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2009, 08:23:15 PM »
I totally agree with you and you know who will be phoning in before it starts and most of them are really boring to listen to, (apart from Bridget ;D) who speaks her mind.

He also edits e-mails.  You send one in with an opinion and he ad-lib edits it whilst reading it out.  Thats why it sounds like he has trouble reading it.

The BBC have no balls.


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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2009, 08:40:46 PM »
is BBC Radio reporting fairly?

 Only as good as its sources and contributors.

In an ideal world all would be better.

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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2009, 11:40:43 PM »
Talking about the media

Tonight's Channel Report covered the public filming politicians and perhaps in future scrutiny meetings
Sarah Ferguson was interviewed and in conversation said about anonymous bloggers " In Jersey we happen to know how us behind them"
It might well me nothing but perhaps Sarah could explain here how exactly " Jersey" would find out..

Watch for yourself and see what you think :

http://www.channelonline.tv/channelonline_jerseynews/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=405270

In Sarah Ferguson's defence, what she meant was that most local politicians are aware of the identity of VFC, because it's not exactly a big secret. They know the names because Jersey is Jersey and it is a small place and lots of people know one another! Channelonline even interview the bloggers in the same piece and name them as Mike and Neil!

What she did NOT mean was "The Oligarchy has its own Stasi-like organisation that can access the internal systems of all the internet service providers in the island and what's more we have purchased some weapons grade cyber-bugging equipment from Mossad". No, she did not mean that.

Come on, there's no conspiracy here. Sarah will probably go into the States members tea room and say "Have you seen that Mike and Neil with their cameras outside? I wonder if we'll be on a blog later?" If someone poked a camera in my face as I went in the office door, I'd probably chat to the fella who sits next to me about who the camera dudes might be.
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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2009, 12:07:06 AM »
Jersey is a large village - and information gets round the network faster than light.  It might not be totally accurate though depending on the source!

In this particular instance we are assisted in knowing the names of some of the people behind the blog as they do, in all fairness, ask if they can interview you for the blog.  Still it would be more transparent if they actually had a space on their blog explaining who they are and why they are running it.




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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2009, 12:07:27 AM »
In Sarah Ferguson's defence, what she meant was that most local politicians are aware of the identity of VFC, because it's not exactly a big secret. They know the names because Jersey is Jersey and it is a small place and lots of people know one another! Channelonline even interview the bloggers in the same piece and name them as Mike and Neil!
What she did NOT mean was "The Oligarchy has its own Stasi-like organisation that can access the internal systems of all the internet service providers in the island and what's more we have purchased some weapons grade cyber-bugging equipment from Mossad". No, she did not mean that.
Come on, there's no conspiracy here. Sarah will probably go into the States members tea room and say "Have you seen that Mike and Neil with their cameras outside? I wonder if we'll be on a blog later?" If someone poked a camera in my face as I went in the office door, I'd probably chat to the fella who sits next to me about who the camera dudes might be.

I think you're probaly right but would like Sarah to confirm
One thing for sure is that blogs are frequently on the minds of the "old" media like JEP. The fact that they used the subject for an April Fool speaks volumes. JEP and Channel all have a " Have your say" feature for most bits of news
They are forced to change as advertising revenues fall dramatically and whithout this they cannot not survive
I am quite an "old bloke" ( in years ) but have been on the internet for more thant 12 years now and always saw it as a huge opportunity to open up the world of knowledge
Just the fact that I am sitting here and can "talk" to anyone in the world is truly amazing and it is affordable
Fascinating world we live in !


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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2009, 12:22:28 AM »
You're right moot, blogs are fascinating in the local context, for their impact on the traditional media.

And it is good to see politicians embrace them. Those that I have seen interviewed by VFC (Shenton, Crowcroft,  Le Herrissier, Cohen, Syvret, even Terry Le Sueur) generally come out of it looking better than had they not participated.

I imagine there is a big "fear of the unknown" for some old school politicians, but they should just embrace it. Sarah is right to highlight issues of editorial control though - nobody wants to be edited unfairly, with no right of appeal. I guess over time some trust will build up between local bloggers and the politicos - it seems to be going that way.

What a video blog needs is a good personality. VFC is great because he has a unique style in local journalism, he's different to the paid journalists. If I were the traditional local media, I'd get a "star blogger" on their sites, one with a personality, who could build up a following. CTV could do a lot worse than Jess Dunsdon after her Paxman-esque exploits this week.

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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2009, 12:40:43 AM »
What is your problem, democracy or democracy that is awkward to some?

The House of Commons is under camera and has been for years, longer with audio reporting - actually donkey (sorry Guernsey) years.

You must have seen the recent Commons Select Committee proceedings, bankers squirming, MOD accountants questioned about dodgy equipment, civil servants being held to account - what scares Jersey so much?

A few lefties with web cams?   

Do not cherry pick democracy - it bites, usually by affording you a Governing body so scared of the embarrassment of the real issues they would rather let the bad ones continue, regardless.






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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2009, 01:22:58 AM »
The voice of "the people" is back. This is all so deja vu. Sigh...

He was probably part of the rent-a-mob people were complaining about. 

How many non-specific random plucks of thin air can you fit into one sentence?

And please let me know when your first Lenny Harper thread is due to start, just so that I can avoid it.
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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2009, 05:43:11 AM »


A few lefties with web cams?   









Er, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but cherrypicking "lefties" sort of leaves access to web cams a no-no for right wingers,centrists,zionist et al?
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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2009, 09:51:04 PM »

Are you happy with BBC Jerseys reporting ?

Quotes are selective please read article ....link below.


The BBC is failing to prosecute viewers who refuse to pay the television licence on principle amid claims that the corporation fears creating a wave of “martyrs”.

The band of licence-fee refuseniks include Vladimir Bukovsky, a former Russian dissident, Noel Edmonds, the television presenter, and Euro-sceptics who believe the BBC is politically biased.
Charles Moore, a columnist for The Spectator magazine, has said he will not renew his TV licence if the corporation continues to employ Jonathan Ross, the disgraced chat show host who is paid £6m a year.

The BBC’s approach to such viewers contrasts with the “bully-boy” tactics it employs to force others to pay the £139.50 annual levy. Some people have received more than 80 warning letters, threatening prosecution and a maximum £1,000 fine, even though they have paid or do not own a television.

He claimed the BBC had breached its royal charter which requires the broadcaster to provide fair and balanced coverage of issues such as the European Union and the Middle East.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article5162494.ece



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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2009, 06:17:25 PM »
They're definitely biased in some areas, at least.  Both BBC HQ, and BBC jersey.  Seems to be like a comfortable little club.

But, you've got to accept that it is normal for a person to be biased, we are incapable of making true random choices.

Groups of people can also be biased, such as a news team, they all work together, and soon start to think the same way, socialise with each other, etc.

Would anyone want to go to work everyday, if they always clash with the opinions of the person who sits next to them?

Does the boss hire the candidate he/she least got on with?

The BBC is also trying to establish far too much territory on the internet, especially.  They're approaching the point where they're potentially damaging private enterprise, and innovation.  And, those they compete with have to pay them a licence fee.

Reducing the licence fee will fix this problem.

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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2009, 09:53:30 PM »
You are right Danrok I don't think there is a subject the don't cover on their web presence.
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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2009, 11:04:15 PM »
In the pre-internet days, the BBC published magazines, such as the Radio Times.

They still do, but they are not free.  What would other publishers have to say if the BBC published the Top Gear magazine for free?  They would go crazy.

But, with the internet, they seem to get away with providing all this general interest content paid for by the licence fee.  While others have to struggle to find enough advertising revenue.  Hardly a level playing field.

I'd far sooner they got back to basics, and focused on quality news, and dropped this dumbed-down news for the US market.

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Re: is BBC Radio reporting fairly?
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2009, 11:15:54 PM »
I don't know where you're coming from there Danrok. 

I get pretty much all my news from the internet and I never pay for it.  I certainly try to avoid websites with annoying advertising. Who needs that? They're not providing the news for news sake - they're commercial ventures.

I'm not really sure how anyone can have much a problem with the BBC's web output.  Considering the staff to reader ratio, it has to be the biggest bargain going.

Not keen on the local web output though.  Too much religion/christian nonsense, far too much about Jersey Live when they wouldn't play that music in a million years, not enough depth in the big stories, too much for the crap.