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General Discussion / Re: Speeding and lowering the limit.
« Last post by shortport on Today at 02:36:07 AM »
Even if it was reduced to 20,it wouldn't make any difference because it is not properly policed.
The occasional speed check currently fails to keep a vast majority of people to under 30 mph so I very much doubt if lowering the limit will make much difference.Constant policing of speed limits and a points based system,3 strikes and you lose your license would be far more effective.
It will be just another law change that is never enforced,like littering,childs cycle hemets,smoking in cars,flytipping,etc,etc.
With all our coppers hiding in their shiny new HQ waiting for their early retirement,our society gradually crumbles into disarray.
General Discussion / Re: Speeding and lowering the limit.
« Last post by Fritz on Today at 12:26:45 AM »
Dont see why any reduction of speed limit is required at all. The traffic volume pretty much limits itself at peak times.
Another waste of time and public money by Jersey,s ,"powers that be".
General Discussion / Re: Speeding and lowering the limit.
« Last post by Jerry Gosselin on Yesterday at 08:27:33 AM »
Silence from St Helier's 10 States Deputies but anger on social media as St Helier's Roads Committee votes to lower speed limit from 30mph to 20mph within the ring road

The controversial decision was taken during a St Helier Roads Committee meeting on Wednesday morning on the back of an apparent 'consultation' with residents which Crowcroft admitted only received 60 responses. I made reference to the Parish plan to drop the speed limit in my previous post on this thread about 5 weeks ago, so I must have read about it somewhere in a media article. However, I wasn't made aware of how to participate in any consultation, not that I would have bothered anyway as I know the parish was just going through the motions in order to justify what it had always intended to do come what may ("This is not a new idea for St. Helier and it has always been part of the strategy." - Simon Crowcroft quoted by Bailiwick Express, link below).

The website is a byzantine maze that is very difficult to navigate but I conducted a brief trawl of various pages to try to find an official mention of this supposed consultation, without any success. I also searched the minutes of the 3 previous Roads Committee meetings that have been held this year but there was simply no mention of their intention to reduce the speed limit to 20mph on all parish roads. It is possible they discussed it last year but I didn't have time to search through those minutes. Needless to say if this parish consultation only took place within the last couple of months then the Roads Committee hardly helped to raise public awareness of it by totally failing to mention their speed limit proposals during their own meetings that were open to the public to attend on 25th January, 1st March and 22nd March.

It is not known which Roads Committee members were in attendance and took this decision on Wednesday. The last Roads Committee election was held at a Parish Assembly meeting on 17th December 2014 (to elect 5 officers for a term of 3 years) but -surprise, surprise - when I searched for the minutes of that particular meeting, it had not been uploaded to the website! Even an extensive google search failed to find it. Is it just parish incompetence or something more sinister that accounts for vital information like this not being put into the public domain?

However, it would appear from cross-referencing with other Roads Committee minutes from that period that only one new officer was elected for the first time in 2014 (perennial St Helier No. 2 election failure Bernie Manning) with the others being re-elected (no doubt unopposed, as is the long-held tradition). The Roads Committee membership is regulated by a law that came into force over 100 years ago (1914) and is so arcane that even the Rector has automatic membership and presumably the right to vote as well. However, I presume that this week's meeting may have come too soon for the new Rector, whose appointment has only recently been announced.

According to the parish website (link below) these are the names of the current Roads Committee members (I have struck through the previous Rector's name):

    Simon Crowcroft (Chair): email:; Tel.:  811821;
    Nigel Blake; email:; Tel.:  875339;
    The Very Rev. Bob Key: email:; Tel.:  720001;
    Robert Le Brocq: email:; Tel.: 743606;
    Peter Wade: email:; Tel.:  875663;
    Bernard Manning: email:; Tel.:  07700 356438; and
    Barry Le Feuvre: email: Tel.: 874391.

It is simply not acceptable that a decision with such major consequences for all drivers of vehicles (whether they be St Helier residents or not) has been pushed through on the sly with no detailed information provided to justify it. For example, was any expert impartial opinion sought and if so, did that opinion specifically examine particular roads within the parish to see whether there was actually a problem with speeding and whether a blanket reduction in the speed limit could be justified. It might be appropriate for a 20mph limit on some of the narrower and smaller roads but there may well be other roads where a higher speed limit is quite acceptable. From the little we know, it seems that this Committee failed to undertake any expert research and didn't consider whether it was appropriate to have higher speed limits on certain roads, or whether other speed reducing measures would have been sufficient.

A valid question has been raised on BBC Radio Jersey's Facebook page by Jill Bartholomew (link below) as to where the exact boundary of the St Helier ring road is located. It is not clear where the ring road is located in the south of St Helier. For example, is Havre des Pas inside the ring road? If it is, then the ring road must be on the beach! To add further confusion, it seems that some major roads in the centre of town are actually classed as States main roads and not parish roads (i.e. Broad Street, Queen Street, etc.). Therefore it is far from clear to the ordinary public which roads will be affected by the Roads Committee decision and which won't.

Let's just hope that this backfires on Crowcroft and someone is brave enough to stand against him in a year's time - and no, I don't mean Chris Whitworth or Stevie Ocean but someone with more than a chance in a million of actually beating him. He has been in the job unopposed for far too many years and none of the parish puppets holding office beneath him will disagree with him. There must be a change of both the person and the policy at the very top of the St Helier power pyramid and the time for this to happen is long overdue.

A Better Jersey / Re: The Electoral Reform Commission
« Last post by Jerry Gosselin on April 25, 2017, 06:00:57 AM »
This was just a comment left by some Telegraph reader below what looks like a Telegraph editorial. Since when does anyone quote from the comments section rather than the main article itself? We don't know anything about the writer or whether they've even been to France. It could be one of the nutty Barclay twins writing under a pseudonym for all we know.

Worthless drivel, just like the paper itself. Mind you, a great future as a JEP columnist awaits this person if they ever decide to move to Jersey.  ;D
A Better Jersey / Re: The Electoral Reform Commission
« Last post by boatyboy on April 24, 2017, 04:22:47 PM »
What has France in common with Jersey ? A comment on the French election where obviously the elite mainstream politicians are so clever they all got kicked out ! In the article below it struck me that Jersey politicians living in their ivory tower, leaving to go on tax funded jollys or to get instruction from expensive spin doctors, are similar in many ways to the French politico.

Mainstream politicians are so out of touch with the electorate it is painful.

Christine Constable 24 Apr 2017 8:43AM

It is a sad day for France, this new upstart has no political base it is a bit like Farage becoming PM without any supporting MPs - what can he do to make the really massive changes France requires - nothing.  It will be a figleaf of a protest by the French who will still be fighting like cats in a bag between the failed Trotsky model of a heavily socialist France and the external forces of globalisation - the problem is France cannot deal with it huge structural problems without the same kind of economic blood letting the UK went through during the Thatcher era - France has managed to stave off this suffering  through support from the CAP - support which will no longer be forthcoming when the UK finally extricates itself from the bloc - it will be the leaving of the UK cash which will precipitate a massive economic crash for France, which is why the French are so bitter about the UK and are among the front runners that want to "punish the British"!

France has been living in cloud cuckoo land for a long time now, a failing agriculture sector, protectionist tendencies, ridiculously high taxation, anti business rules and aggressive employment policies compounded by  poor general government.

The French want to live in their one cow six chickens nirvana, but do not have the cash to do it, meanwhile the country has been filling up with antagonistic, often unemployed and welfare draining migrants   further eroding their parlous state.

One man elected as President who knows what difficult things need to be done, will be unable to do anything without a political base to support him, it will be just like Obama in a Republican held Senate and HofR.

The French are afraid of taking the big decisions and hope a vote for a token politician will deliver them from servitude to Germany and financial reality - history shows us that it won't and France's problems could grow and become more intractable.

Ironically the French who are so antagonistic to the EU are in their charmed position (spending more than they earn for decades) because of the largesse of the EU made possible by the UK's contribution - this situation for the British is intolerable that we should be forced to subsidise a lazy ideologically flawed and politically spiteful partner who, now realising they are going to have to pick up the tab for their own failures rather than expecting everyone else to pay for them wants to create an unpleasant backlash to Britain, a country that has enabled it to stay in its torpor of failure for quite a few decades.

France should wake up and smell the coffee and recognise that Britain is doing it a favour - change only comes about through necessity and Brexit means that France must now do the tough things to get itself back into a functioning economy without the need for subsidies.

The EU should be nervous indeed - no change on the EU front or "more Europe" followed by a French President that is paralysed to do anything could create a very dangerous situation in France - just a handful more of terrorist outrages could tip the country into a very volatile situation and I would not be surprised if France ends up with another election in a few months time.

The EU elites have monumentally failed Europe, their one size fits all, over ambition, politically driven agenda, and spectacular failures with the Euro and economic growth, let alone mass unwanted migration will continue to sow the seeds of its eventual collapse.

Sadly the EU never had the intellectual capacity to do the obvious thing and consult with the people subjected to Europe about what  THEY wanted, the elites presumed to themselves that THEY knew what the people wanted  and that their very specific vision was a shared vision - which it wasn't.  We now have a huge number of subsidy junkies in Europe - one of the biggest being France itself and without massive structural change the expensive subsidy driven model that runs the EU will crash into reality.

It is a political embarrassment for mainstream politicians in France that none of them made the Presidential run the same way the UK had to use Farage as a bulwark against which to demand a referendum on membership of the EU - mainstream politicians are so out of touch with the electorate it is painful.

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Simon Crowcroft - St Helier / Re: Wickenden's holiday snaps
« Last post by Jerry Gosselin on April 24, 2017, 07:13:18 AM »
Somehow I overlooked the fact that Deputy Scott Wickenden also attended that Mallorca Smart Island World Congress with Constable Crowcroft, as this tweet confirms:

Apparently, Jersey's Digital Policy Framework is a finalist in the Smart Island World Congress Awards.

Another tweet by Wicko (link below) seems to suggest that he will also be attending a separate event - the Smart City Expo - for the same reason (Jersey's Digital Policy Framework is a finalist in the Smart Island World Congress Awards). The Smart City Expo is being held in Barcelona on 14-16 November 2017. So if I understand this correctly, Jersey appears to be attending both the Islands and the City events and is a finalist at both awards:

Only last month it was revealed that Jersey's eGov project has already used 75% of its £9.9 million budget without any major changes to the way islanders interact with their government having yet been made:

Simon Crowcroft - St Helier / Re: Crowcroft's holiday snaps
« Last post by Jerry Gosselin on April 22, 2017, 08:20:37 PM »
Simon's on junket duty this week, as this States of Jersey re-tweet from yesterday shows:

Mallorca for the 'Small Island World Congress' (who dreams these things up?). Poor guy. I bet they had to drag him kicking and screaming onto the plane at Jersey Airport.

These are some of the tortures he has had to endure on our behalf:

I don't know if he's staying here but this is one of the hotels being used for this latest mass get together of island bureaucrats and movers and shakers:

It must feel weird for a Jersey resident to be on a holiday island which boasts large, high-quality hotels built in this millennium rather than the last one. And hotels by the sea too. How many of those do we have left in Jersey that aren't yet the subjects of Planning applications for either demolition or conversion into high-value homes?

The Congress speakers were all yawn-inducing bores (er, eyes to the left!):

And the Azores speaker wasn't much better:

Nothing very tempting to see here either:

Poor Simon is going to need a holiday to get over this er, holiday. He has my sympathies.

Presumably this has gone on the Public Accounts Committee expenses tab because Simon isn't a member of anything else (other than the Constables' Committee). The other politicians on this Committee are Deputy Andrew 'Powergate' Lewis (pictured below last month with Simon outside his new padded cell), Constable Christopher Taylor and "the Rt Hon. Member for Albert Square", Deputy Judy Martin.

Child Abuse Enquiry / Re: Child abuse in the Channel Islands
« Last post by shortport on April 22, 2017, 03:17:09 AM »
The care inquiry has been delayed.
Now we find out ministers are being trained by spin doctors to deal with the fallout.
How much interference did the COM have to delay the report so they can be brainwashed.
Seems like political interference to me.
General Discussion / Re: £35,000
« Last post by Fritz on April 21, 2017, 12:18:59 AM »
If they are not competent to answer questions what the heck are they doing in politics?
General Discussion / £35,000
« Last post by Chevalier Blanc on April 20, 2017, 04:04:13 PM »
Well now, another £35,000 i know is not much for our government to spend but on bringing over a spin doctor just to train the CoM's to be able to lie with a straight face and duck and dive questions about the Child Abuse report.
Just let the public read and make up their own minds who is to blame.
It is disgusting that they are going to do this. Can they not just answer a question straight when asked and not try to cover up who is to blame.
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