The real identity of Time for Change!

[stoneface]

I don't think it is a minority of our population.  People seem to just think of the wealthy as only within the 1.(1).K bracket but thats rubbish.  I know plenty of millionaires outside of this niche and a lot have made money to the detriment of the strugglers.

Surely, if the majority of our population is "rich," letting the "rich" run the island would simply be... democracy?

I use quotation marks because if we look at it from a global perspective, even our poorest are stinking rich compared to most of the world.

[Fritz]

Anyone with no debt whatsoever and one penny in their pocket is in the top 10% of the world wealthiest.

[imacrappaud]

Baicry stoneface our poorest are poor because they live in an island that is ruled by richer folk. If any drunk in the park had a clue they could take their states welfare and go live the life of riley in india or maybe even Thailand if they had the sense to move and they could drink forever. This island is without doubt run by well off people looking after their own circumstance without much care to those who cannot live to their standards.

If you were a millionare would you give back to the island, apart from taxes, some money to help people out. Maybe you would, I know I would but I would only to the degree that if you make an effort i would  love to help out.

We are on our way to a mini Monaco without the guaranteed sun and i think its about time people realised this. Once we have reached Monaco standards of living we will then look towards Singapore style living, high rises all around us and this island will becaome swamped. I doubt it will be within my life span but I am pretty sure that the next generation has f all to look forward to when it comes to a pretty island.

[debumblebee]

No. you have to do what Stuart Syvret is doing. Make out that you care about the poor whilst moving into a wealthy family.

[rogueelement]

that is about it Bumblebee , I am now tired of your pathetic attacks on "the person" , attack the politician, attack the ex head of police for whatever failings you care to write about , but pleeeeeeaaaase! attacking someone for their relationships is crap and you know it.You have become the flip side of the coin, relentless petty ,scurilous, pedantic, rumour mongering sh1te is not an argument.
you have apparently lost your job, I sincerely hope not , but at the same time I would plead with you to deal in facts, proof, argument and/or reason. Bumblebee , feck sake move on!

[ole razzy]

Bee I agree with the sentiments of Spartacus and Gattaca expressed over different threads in recent days. I think you are doing yourself more harm then good with this obsessional sniping at either Stuart Syvret or Monfort Tadier. When I read your posts nowadays there is an air of depression or desperation about them that have actually made me worry about your health.

You have been on PJ since its inception and have in many ways contributed to the establishment of a truly viable forum for political discourse. I have rarely agreed with what you have said but I have tried hard to respect your rights to expression. Sincerest apologies for those times that I have not. But this is becoming increasingly more difficult as it appears you are decending into dark and seemingly obsessional and at times irrational behaviour online. What Stuart Syvret did to you must have caused some considerable turbulence in your life and if rumours are true some financial ones as well. But you have to move away from all this and try to get a different angle or all of this anger is going to eat you up.

My advice would be to give it up altogether. It really does appear to have done you few favours at all.  

[Dylan]

It also has created a downturn of Interest in PJ. I seriously think that if you continue to dominate all postings on a dumb mission then PJ will collapse.

[ole razzy]

I know of three other posters who used to be regular daily contributors who have said to me that they refuse to post on any thread the bee is operating because their opinions will be lost under the weight of bee's obfuscation. I for one have certainly all but stopped posting here for those same reasons.

[Solomon]

Following a meeting of the Moderators yesterday, it was decided that Debumblebee was upsetting too many members with his personal attacks and was cluttering up the forum with irrelevant rants. As a consequence, he has been banned indefinitely.

Solomon

[Durendal]

Following a meeting of the Moderators yesterday, it was decided that Debumblebee was upsetting too many members with his personal attacks and was cluttering up the forum with irrelevant rants. As a consequence, he has been banned indefinitely.

Solomon

First of all you managed to ban me I believe.

I guessed it was in error so no offence was taken!

[ole razzy]

There will be some who will take great delight in this. I am not really one. It was the right thing to do for the forum for sure. The moderators and owner are to be applauded. But it is sad that it came to this. And, moving forward, I hope he is ok. The comments section on Stuarts blog will doubtless see this as some kind of mini victory on the road to Stasbourg in what, despite repeated efforts by several PJ posters at a rapproachment, has sadly lingered in the air like a stale fart for way too many months for my liking.

For all his supposed faults, the obsessions, the alleged muti-avatar multi-forum skullduggery, the use of the royal 'we', the bee should most definately be credited with knowing how and helping to facilitate robust political debate in Jersey at the outset. I may not have liked his means or even his views at times but he did help to open things up, he started threads and helped maintain online momentum. For that I would like to give him some credit.

Jon we are the same age, we went to the same school, so maybe next time I see you in the street I'll re-introduce myself and take you for a pint and you can finish the Roy Boschat story that never really got the airing it deserved. 

 

[Fritz]

"The bee", never bothered me.

Just another anonymous poster on a supposed ,"Open Forum".

Nobody was forced to read his posts.

I sincerely hope that ,"P.J", doesn,t turn in to one of those, "If you dont agree with the general concensus, your banned", forums.

[Solomon]

First of all you managed to ban me I believe.

I guessed it was in error so no offence was taken!

I'm glad you're not offended, I would have sat up all night crying. No, I didn't ban you - To do that I would have had to add you to the ban list, DB was already on the ban list so it was simply a case of modifying a pre-existing ban.
I don't know what happened to your account unless your I.P. address matched DB's
Solomon