JEP- is it worth buying ?

[boatyboy]

Newspapers and their self imposed reporting standards are in the headlines at the moment, and freedom of the accredited press and now the internet is a cornerstone of democracy but still needs checks and balances like the banking industry, and MP’s expenses.

Lets take our own  " heart of the Island JEP " there are several competent even  gifted  journalists which  give us  interesting and enlightening articles and others like the economics editor Mr Body repeating  the same old government drivel but ultimately the editor will decide what is a go and what is a no.   

To  be fair to the JEP they make their pennies supported by Government and commercial advertising  and  not from the internet information which they offer for free, but no doubt  create a revenue stream as advertising must contribute.

The point is now they are looking to also edit hard copy and internet comments that may not suit the editor Chris Bright’s personal views.  Furthermore I and  members of PJ regularly offer up other website links to give  the sources to backup opinions we have formed. This is  not the preferred way with the JEP in fact they rather you did not  “ actually “.


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BB

[ageofaquarius]

The JEP and the DM seem to have the same rhetoric, filling the readers with fear.  Last week when it the wind howled a bit, they advised us NOT to leave the house as a we could be hit with falling roof slates, tonight ladies are advised not to walk home alone. Sorry, but no, I will not be bullied by paranoid - would be better to advise us to buy a rape alarm.  I could be severely damaged  standing outside a hotel waiting for a cab and hit by a drunken fool, such is life. 

[man in the street]

 or a small hairspray for the eyes

[boatyboy]

It can be done.................. decent in depth reporting on a small island, they even bother to do graphics who Jersey no Guernsey press. Need I say more.

A second point is that the report mentioned was published, the blog entries offer praise to Guernseys COM, imagine that in Jersey. Now where is that WEB report CM Gorst ? you know the one that will cost the taxpayer only £50 million.

Quote:

MULTIPLE failings in Education have been confirmed by an independent report released today.
Ordered on the back of stark revelations about falling GCSE standards at the island’s high schools, the Denis Mulkerrin review is a damning indictment of how the service is run.

http://www.thisisguernsey.com/news/2012/01/13/report-finds-serious-shortcomings-in-education-management/

BB

[rico sorda]

http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2012/01/matt-tapp-files-5.html

Why are we still funding this Toxic Edifice?

rs

[boatyboy]

I read three negative comments before the JEP decided to freeze the blog.

Now there are none, just disappeared  ?

On a different subject but shoved in the reader's face is the line by the JEP

The cost of covering the duties of suspended police chief Graham Power was £234,854.

They also forgot to mention, that thanks to Rico Sorda, Stuart Syvret and VFC blogs there is clear objective evidence that Ex Police Chief Power should never have been suspended in the first place and far worse.

He retired without any charges proved against him but he did produce an affidavit ( legal witnessed document ) in his defence which has never been contested in court.

This is rather strange really, because if it had, and the ex police chief had been found lying he would have committed perjury which is a custodial offence. He would also have had a chance to ask his accusers ( under oath ) some deep questions.

See the ramifications ?

Mr Warcupp
Mr Gradwell ( refuses to take part in scrutiny or return to Jersey)
Finance Executive of Home affairs.
Ex Cm Frank Walker OBE
Mr Bill Ogley
Ex Home affairs Minister Mr Andrew Lewis
Matt Tapp
Senator Le Marquand

None of these have signed an affidavit, risking a perjury charge.

These are the facts that the JEP and BBC should be offering the islander but nothing  just silence on the objective facts,  and blog submissions from islanders removed, not published or edited, what a way to carry on ? 


IMO it therefore follows that the  £234,854. Paid for a replacement, was a complete waste of money by the States, as ex PC Power had nothing to answer for.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2012/02/06/1-4m-cost-of-police-disciplinary-reviews/

BB

[Lokel_Yokel]

IMO the JEP (Jersey Evening Pravda  ) does have a value by letting folk know what the establishment think / want the Peasantry to think........but IMO also useful for letting folk know of things that are going on within Jersey (the non-contentious stuff).

Nowadays it is ever increasingly obvious how skewed the reporting is (IMO often to the point of embarresment), and as folk do become more Internet literate that will only accelerate. Sooner or later that will affect sales.......and in this economic downturn (plus the ever rising internet) the advert revenue must already have fallen off a cliff.

FWIW I no longer buy the JEP, but am still a regular reader - as me Father gets them! But he is the thick end of 80, and just like Jersey's repeat Tourists - sooner or later the core JEP readership will simply die off. Maybe they could do as the Tourism Industry was "encouraged" to do (by over regulation and lack of infrastructure investment to drive out the bucket and spade market) - and instead target the high end market 

[danrok]

The JEP is pretty much guaranteed a stack of cash from the States of Jersey, for their advertising/notices.  Hence, all the brown nosed reporting.

It would struggle to survive without their business.

[boatyboy]

Several people including myself, truly believe that if the media had done a decent job and put the islanders ( their customers ) before self interest and researched and reported on the stories in a true and balanced professional manner. This would have made decision makers think twice, Knowing their every action was being scrutinised by an active and honest media.

This has been dragged to the surface in the scrutiny hearings of BDO Alto Jersey. The medias involvement was heavily criticised for inaccuracy and being lethargic.

It would appear there is a new way to get your own back on Jersey's one and only paper. Spearheaded by someone inventive called Jill. So what did you do Jill ?



 jill manson said...

Just cancelled my car from Derek warwicks, I hope they see sense and stop advertising on the rag.

Saturday, 31 March 2012 00:44:00 GMT+01:00

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Ricos blog is back up, good news.

[Calimachon]

I had to take a double look at the paper the other night.  In an article in which the bay leaf was mentioned they referred to him as plain Mr.  Then under the photograph they referred to him as Sir.  Do they know something we don't?

Cali

[Chevalier Blanc]

I firmly believe that if the JEP were to print the truth on what is going on within the establishment party and just how crooked some of our ministers are then their sales would be very high indeed and the States would still have to put their adverts in the post. As people have been saying the internet will take over from the newspaper in the end purely because the truth is being put out and we can see where cover ups are going on etc.
The states members would know that they would have to keep their hoses clean because they will be found out very quickly.
Roll on Rico and his TV Blog. ( could turn into something big ).

[boatyboy]

Fair comment Chevalier Blanc, but it is not just them.

Has anyone noticed how CTV almost every evening after the news? and give us their own propaganda telling us they are at the for-front of news, bringing us the real stories, blah blah blah when in fact  ninety five percent of the time, six year students at our schools could put together something more revealing interesting and relevant. Complete and utter garbage from the CTV spin team.

Then the Jersey BBC, who's very existence rely on our licence fee, ah but now half asleep aunty in Jersey. Some of the UK BBC'c offerings are excellent, but Jersey must be the retirement home for burnt out managers. They come and retire and have nice cups of tea made for them, and live in their own little bubble. While the rest of the islanders are engaged with real life problems.


Those difficult question time political programmes staged by the UK, and all those hard questions that keep the great and the good in check and accountable, must be avoided in a small island, cancel the talk back show where islanders have a say and express their views. Much better to have a nap in the afternoon.

Then they wonder why people are turning to Forums and blogs for there real time honest information and news.

BB

 
   

[Chevalier Blanc]

Boatyboy i agree with you. CTV just as bad as the JEP.

[danrok]

Hardly worth paying to read press releases.  You can read them for free here:
http://www.gov.je/news/Pages/default.aspx

[boatyboy]

Welcome Stuntman to the Forum.

News in Jersey is almost entirely based on Business or States of Jersey Press Releases, the Courts and States Sittings.

That makes it all so sterile just read it off the press release. Since when are statements not questioned by a decent press? They hunt with passion weakness of public personalities and leaders in the UK including the purchase of thinks like a duck house using expenses.  I agree completely with you its in the translation, but lack of deeper delving and actually as far as Jersey media goes generally not rocking the boat is the norm.

This to me is a pretty poor show as the public fund the media, and also should  - not - be treated like mushrooms you know of course what they are fed.

The title is actually very clear on this thread.

bb