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Offline John de la Haye

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2008, 11:58:51 AM »
Why is it that you allow people to post under pseudonyms? I for one am happy with my name.

John I am happy with my name and Job.

Information finds its way on here because the good people offering the knowledge do not fear for their jobs In Jersey. Using ones real name, might attract difficult concequences. Jersey is just a big village.

It also is good talk and get frustrations off your chest  (so as to speak ).

Call yourself whatever you like, within reason.

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Once again thanks! I'm a bit new to this type of posting but I do take offence easily.

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2008, 03:20:53 PM »
 I thought I had logged into a thread on discussing Jersey culture. I was pleased to see and read Carolyn Labey's contributions. Then I had to waste 5 minutes of my time reading about people changing their names, lots of made up stuff and what they think are clever remarks. I don't need to waste my time reading peoples one-upmanship. I would like to know what people think of the anthem and the drive behind it. I would like to join a debate on the future of Jersey culture, what it means to people and the way forward. Like John, I am a bit confused. Could someone advise where I can join in a sensible discussion on this theme because I don't think its here? Thanks.

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #62 on: November 28, 2008, 03:39:41 PM »
I thought I had logged into a thread on discussing Jersey culture. I was pleased to see and read Carolyn Labey's contributions. Then I had to waste 5 minutes of my time reading about people changing their names, lots of made up stuff and what they think are clever remarks. I don't need to waste my time reading peoples one-upmanship. I would like to know what people think of the anthem and the drive behind it. I would like to join a debate on the future of Jersey culture, what it means to people and the way forward. Like John, I am a bit confused. Could someone advise where I can join in a sensible discussion on this theme because I don't think its here? Thanks.

Bless your little sensitive socks.

Anthem is rubbish.  That's what I think of it. 

I have no idea of what you mean about the drive behind the anthem.  Are you talking politically or musically?
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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #63 on: November 28, 2008, 07:30:47 PM »
Hello Jersey 08.

Want to talk culture? Then tell me......

What do you think Carolyn Labey has done to enrich your understanding of art, poetry, music, film, drama, comedy, performance or connect with people who care about these things and even those that dont.

I'd say she's done nothing. Because she knows nothing about it.

Agree or not?

If she has then hit me with it....

I'd love to know.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 07:36:11 PM by Clareese Du Pre »
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Offline John de la Haye

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2008, 06:05:56 AM »
Clareece,

Reading some of the above postings, I can only draw the conclusion that either you have no knowledge of Deputy Labey's great work for the community or you have a position to determine the shortcomings which your writings allude to. Whilst I agree that Deputy Labey should perhaps entertain your craving for this information, I would like to settle on your motivation to persue the question.
Perhaps you could expand on this?

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2008, 06:22:03 AM »
Dear John,

You seem like rather a sparky sort! How old are you may I ask? I am a woman in my late fifties and single and wondered if you might like to meet up some time and share a bottle of claret?

I'd be delighted to tell you all about ESC and their responsibilities for "cultcha" and will share them with other posters once admin has set up a board for the department.

Yes Admin - still waiting - no reply on email - I do keep checking!

Clareese Du Pre.

PS - John, I was very sexually liberated in my youth. You?

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2008, 07:31:54 AM »
You could just post stuff regrading ESC under general discussion.  I don't know why there is no specific topic for it.

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2008, 10:59:55 AM »
Dear John,

You seem like rather a sparky sort! How old are you may I ask? I am a woman in my late fifties and single and wondered if you might like to meet up some time and share a bottle of claret?

I'd be delighted to tell you all about ESC and their responsibilities for "cultcha" and will share them with other posters once admin has set up a board for the department.

Yes Admin - still waiting - no reply on email - I do keep checking!



Clareese Du Pre.

PS - John, I was very sexually liberated in my youth. You?



Clareese,

I'm afraid I cannot be swayed with the prospect of claret however alluring. You do have my email if you wish to discuss the cultural divide in private. As for my youth, I spent most of it studying greek philosophy in London. I have tried to avoid the mess of hedonism and only drink guinness occasionally so I think you would find me rather a bore. But I do thank you for the kind words. I still would like to put a handle on your monotonic query with Deputy Labey. Are you going to enlighten the forum?

John.

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2008, 11:20:08 AM »
John thats so boring.  I think Clareese Du Pres  was hoping to get her leg over !

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #69 on: November 29, 2008, 12:49:22 PM »

I'd like to get a chance to bring the cultural strategy back into play and have written a little critique and some background which I'll be posting over the next few days - in bite size peices to make it easy to digest.

It is a little tale of power, control, abuse of position, political favours, bullying and back handers all rolled into one. There's some very funny characters involved right from the very top at the Bailiff's office down to the grass roots organisations like the WI. All the islands cliques and clacks will be painted in bright colours. Deputy Labey played a minor part but now that she is Assistant Minister at ESC with special responsibility for culture it may well be up to her to defend the strategy which is why I am so glad she has taken time out to visit our little discussion board.

And Waybe you were quite right. I was indeed trying to get my leg over with old John. If its the same John de la Haye I know he really is rather a dish, even if he is a frightful bore!

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #70 on: November 29, 2008, 04:13:31 PM »
Hi, I have been unable to join in until now.

Bless you kind Man!- I was referring to the political motive of the anthem. I think its part of a wider independent Jersey agenda. I doubt Clarolyn had much say in it. It was always FW who seemed to promote it.

Claresse, in answer to your question- I think Carolyn has a good list of achievements from a £50,000 budget that employs one person. Has it enriched my understanding of poetry etc. Not specifically, but I'm time and cash poor, with a young family so sitting around in the Arts Centre or going to the Opera is not high on my agenda. However, my toddler and I did enjoy the classic 'art in the street' that we saw in town over the summer. I forget who sponsored it but ultimately it was a gov. project, paid for by the tax payer. It might not do it for everyone, but neither will sculpture, Lou Reed or nationalistic music. But there is probably something there for most people. Incidentally, I work with youth. Many of them go to La Motte where they have access to a broad range of genres, not just music. At the youth club I work in, the young people have been given free access to a range of art and dance forms recently.
I think a lot of what Carolyn has done with the £50,000 is to lay cultural foundations and support on going cultural projects that may not be able to sustain themselves in a small state with contracting visitor numbers. On the whole, I see it as a good thing.

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #71 on: November 29, 2008, 05:32:35 PM »
What cultural foundations has she laid exactly?
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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2008, 02:41:53 AM »
I must admit that 50000 is not a great deal to lay cultural foundations, judging by the thread in St Brelade it woul not even pay for the foundation of the toilet block (joke). Is that less boring Wayne?

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2008, 08:17:54 AM »
Cultural foundations-
education syllabus, consultations, schemes, linking groups, new panels, strategies etc. 

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Re: Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture?
« Reply #74 on: December 23, 2008, 07:21:00 AM »
Deputy Labey - has she done anything for the islands culture? The answer to that question was a big NO.

That she was not asked to carry on in her role as Assistant Minister with special responsibility for culture says it all.

So with Vibert & Labey thankfully gone what now for the cultural strategy? More of the same? ie nothing new?

I hope Reed starts to tune in quickly. He could do a lot worse then rip up the current strategy and put in place something that actually delivers new and innovative cultural activities and events.

Cultural foundations-
education syllabus, consultations, schemes, linking groups, new panels, strategies etc. 


The above quote is the perfect description of everything that has been wrong with ESC's mis-management of the cultural portfolio to date - lots of talking, no action, no new revenue streams, buildings left in decay, unimaginative and repetitive programming in the venues, no engagement with creative sector either for or not for profit etc etc etc.

Good luck Deputy Reed. You've inherited a cultural crock and a slimey bunch of civil servants in the department who you should fear as much as any political opponent in the States.


 

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