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The state of our roads.
jerseydaz:
Maybe I am stupid but why do we need an American company to manage the maintenance of the roads in Jersey? I was under the impression that this was a job TTS did. Why do we have so many civil servants at TTS and yet they still need to out source, although judging by the state of our roads is it because TTS are incapable. Will we see a reduction of civil servants at TTS now they have delegated this task to others? I did witness TTS lay tarmac only last year. A ramp three metres by one metre took one civil servant ( don't quite know what he was doing with tarmac as he was a plumber but having worked for the States I am well aware you don't actually need to understand your chosen topic when you get issued a Peugeot and a shiny luminous jacket. ) took two visits to look at it, another visit to explain to the five oppo's who were going to do the job and another visit to explain to us the tenant what they were going to do. The actual work was done quickly by the lads who knew what they were doing, until we (the tenant) pointed out the door would now leak as they had come up above the weather bar. The work men explained that they were following orders and had given up trying to think for themselves. When the civil servant was shown the problem? He uttered the immortal words " I'll get the contractors down to have a look".
Maybe this explains why they need to get some one in as I know our experience is a far from isolated incident. I suggest working from the top down with States departments until you find someone with common sense and sacking the rest.
Lokel_Yokel:
Maybe the Americans will have a ruler - so they can draw straight lines, would have been useful to have someone who could draw a straight line when the plans for the Westbound lanes of the Esplanade / the Avenue were drawn up.
Every time I drive along I do wonder if the person at TTS who made the plans was pissed or simply a retard.
boatyboy:
Hold on a minute, if an American company is being contracted to maintain all the roads, where does that leave the two local companies, and their employees ?
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Lokel_Yokel:
--- Quote from: boatyboy on February 05, 2012, 10:22:29 AM ---Hold on a minute, if an American company is being contracted to maintain all the roads, where does that leave the two local companies, and their employees ?
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Still need locally based folks to wave a shovel around. or to peer into the holes........as long as the 2 local companies were given the opportunity to bid (and / or can subcontract) and the winning bid is better for Jersey overall then I have no problem with a US company being used. Some big ifs in that of course.
Not seen details of exactly what the US company will be doing - but one thing that both Jersey and the English have in common is not being able to manage anything too complicated (a wild generalisation I know - but way too much truth in that), so employing folk who can manage to arrange a piss up in a brewery is a good thing.
Hopefully it's not another Connex type deal. or a WEB smoke and mirrors type arrangement.
In regard to the TTS civil servants, my guess is that not only no job cuts, but probably need extra staff to manage the outsourcing - that is something that needs doing,albeit probably won't be done well - whether intentionally or not.......
man in the street:
heres a fact . we do not need a american company to lay tarmac in jersey.
it must be a foot in the door for them , is this one of mcleans start ups??
so if this goverment wants all of us manual workers down la motte street on a daily basis , just carry on.
no doubt the yanks are not paying any tax to the island and removing the cash they earn.
here,s a thing yokel local, long before finance , jersey went along ok without any , so called specialists , and jersey became operated by a bunch of outsiders .
this running for outside help for a simple job must stop and those who cant , go and find local labour who can
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