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Counting the cost of tax havens
« on: November 25, 2011, 02:42:44 PM »
TAX evasion - which costs Australia $41.4 billion a year - is the cause of the Greek debt crisis that is destabilising Europe, according to the author of research into the problem.
 
Every year tax evasion costs the world's governments $3.1 trillion, or about 5.1 per cent of world gross domestic product (GDP), activist group the Tax Justice Network says in a report.
 
''Greece's problems stem from 40 years of tax evasion and not collecting enough tax revenue,'' TJN director John Christensen told BusinessDay.
 
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''There's no other cause. Their public revenues have been in disarray as long as anyone can remember, they've been borrowing on the international financial markets way, way beyond what's acceptable.
 
''One can say pretty much the same about Italy, where tax evasion is a national sport.
 
''The result of that is that the whole of the euro zone is under threat.''
 
On TJN's figures, the $29.4 billion in tax evaded by Greeks every year is equal to 9.65 per cent of the country's GDP, compared with an Australian percentage of 4.31 per cent.
 
The TJN claims criminals, dictators, the rich and big corporations have hidden trillions of dollars in tax havens such as Jersey, the tiny Channel Island where Mr Christensen was born.
 
The organisation is pushing for automatic information exchange between tax havens and tax authorities, the full disclosure of who owns companies, and country-by-country income tax reporting for multinational corporations.
 
Mr Christensen admitted there might be ''very, very restricted'' cases when a company might legitimately use a tax haven to avoid paying tax on the same income twice, in two countries.
 
''It's not about double taxation, it's about double non-taxation, in the majority of cases,'' he said.
 
He said he spoke from his experience working in Jersey for Touche Ross, which is now part of accountancy firm Deloitte.
 
''Most of the multinational clients I was working with were using offshore subsidiaries largely for thin capitalisation, transfer mis-pricing or downright tax evasion,'' he said. ''They're also using them for bribery and corruption at every single level.
 
''The real service offered to clients, whether it's high net worth individuals or multinational companies is secrecy, supported by judicial non-co-operation, weak information exchange processes and no requirement for any economic substance for the activities they're carrying out.''
 
Mr Christensen said the extradition to Australia on tax charges of his former schoolmate, accountant Philip de Figueiredo, triggered feelings of ''surprise and resentment'' and ''a great deal of fear'' among Jersey's population of 90,000 people.
 
An accountant with Channel Islands firm Strachans, de Figueiredo was extradited to Brisbane at Christmas last year and charged with money laundering and conspiracy to defraud the Commonwealth over the tax affairs of two Gold Coast businessmen - charges that have yet to be heard in the Queensland Supreme Court.
 
It is expected de Figueiredo will eventually face additional charges in Melbourne over the affairs of another Strachans client, music promoter and convicted tax cheat Glenn Wheatley.
 
''I was in Jersey last month and they're not very happy about this,'' Mr Christensen said.
 
The criminal charges and pressure over tax rates from the neighbouring European Union (Jersey is not a member) had brought unwelcome attention to a jurisdiction that had marketed itself as a quiet, safe, international financial centre, he said.
 
''From my experience the regulation there is piss poor, they are deceitful at every level, they are manipulative, and they're in a state of shock at how suddenly things seem to be unravelling.''


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I dont have an issue with Jersey being a low tax zone but the rest world does!

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Re: Counting the cost of tax havens
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2011, 03:41:37 PM »
Quote,

“in the spring, the BBC’s Money Programme calculated that Green and his family had ‘saved themselves’ £300m from their £1.2bn salary by living for a part of the year in Monaco, whose residents don’t pay income tax

Oh, and as usual there is a Jersey dimension to this story. Taveta Investments Limited in the UK is owned by a company of the same name in Jersey (just to confuse things) and it is owned by two nominee companies that appear to own each other. Which makes things as clear as mud when it comes to working out what’s going on.

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2006/06/19/sir-philip-green-the-rewards-of-tax-avoidance/

pj has been here before, but now people are starting to slowly get the message, or not ?

http://planetjersey.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3088.msg51174.html#msg51174

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Re: Counting the cost of tax havens
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2011, 06:29:46 PM »
The whole global financial meltdown is down to something very basic.
Too many folk being paid to produce absolutely nothing.
Too many , "Empire Building", levels of management producing absolutely nothing.
In a proper economy we do need good managers to supervise ,"The shop floor", in any business, be it public or private.
What we seem to have now, in the public sector, is an ,"Upside-down", pyramid where there are increasing levels of management supervising decreasing levels of labour.
Basic physics tells you that ,"Pointy-end down",and increasing pressure to the blunt end makes any structure sink.
As the old saying goes, "Too many chiefs......"

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Re: Counting the cost of tax havens
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 10:04:03 PM »
Good post fritz, a vast majority of people in offices have forgotten that for all their fancy glass and stainless steel ivory towers to exist, some of us has got to do a days work and make, create, grow something in the first place. Too many people rely on being paid by the state, either working for the state or collecting benefits, its the same, the are not economically self sufficient.

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Re: Counting the cost of tax havens
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2011, 03:32:37 PM »
Fritz I agree on a Government level when you say,

The whole global financial meltdown is down to something very basic.
Too many folk being paid to produce absolutely nothing.

This is only part of the story and quite a small part as I read slowly through Shaxton´s, Treasure Islands, which is very enlightning to put it mildly.

Accountants, Trust or legal professionals reading this might be able to ( in laymans terms ) cast more light than the small torch I am holding but what seems to have happened is that when one Government trys to regulate banks and money flow, this leads to an exodus to less transparent taxing and regulated  places in the world. London with its crown depedancies has facilitated this over decades while smiling openly saying its nothing to do with us all this offshore finace avoid tax stuff. In reality and to hold on to financial core power, the Bank of England and banking´s corporate friends are calling the shots, or turning a blind eye.

The funds called Eurobonds as a heading but not always euros include dollars and everything else in between have got so large, trillions in fact, that these funds, stride the earth and countries and Government are almost helpless to stop the flow and ebb of money.

The result is that corporations wealthy elite and even country agencies use these devices to avoid tax. Who pays in the end , yep the man women in the street.

I know its a bit heavy on a Saturday, but, and I may be wrong, the collapse of countries wealth is all down to countries not working in harmony, and this economic mess was always going to happen.

The good news is, thanks to Treasure Island and books like it, ordinary peeps are getting the knowledge, the more knowledge the population have the less they can be shafted.

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Re: Counting the cost of tax havens
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2011, 04:26:19 PM »
"The good news is, thanks to Treasure Island and books like it, ordinary peeps are getting the knowledge, the more knowledge the population have the less they can be shafted."

Or maybe the knowledge just makes more people realise that they cannot do anything about it?

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Re: Counting the cost of tax havens
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2011, 06:34:03 PM »
 i agree fritz,  know we cant do any thing about it , but i do like to be in formed of where we are heading , i maybe able to pad myself out to avoid the fallout .
 i know i will never be a rich man in the monetary sense.