Author Topic: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.  (Read 786 times)

Offline boatyboy

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Mick Gradwell imported in to work on the child abuse investigation, after the retirement of Lenny Harper and Graham Power,  is no-where to be seen. Like Napier he has taken the money, but so far refuses to return to Jersey to answers questions on his very well paid work.

Is it just me that thinks this is a big step past strange ?

Is Mr Gradwell petrified of  probing questions awaiting him from a well researched scrutiny panel ?

How does this  impact on the home affairs Minister Ian Le Marquand who is on record as praising the professionalism of Mr Gradwell  who may have leaked information to a newspaper through the reporter David Rose who quoted word by word from a Jersey Police report.

They do things differently in the UK where they take confidential leaks seriously, they actually organise a  major official investigation.

BBC Quote:

Surrey Police removed an officer from the inquiry into Milly Dowler's murder after claims he leaked confidential information, it has emerged. The force said the detective constable received "words of advice".

The Dowler family's solicitor Mark Lewis said: "The Dowler family, Bob and Sally, have become aware in the last week of the fact that someone from the Surrey Police was removed from the initial investigation because of the leak of information.

"This is a very serious matter that will be investigated as part of the judge-backed public inquiry into the links between all police forces and the press.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-14266147

The Jersey Sub Panel will be holding the following public hearings next week through a conference call arrangement

Tuesday 16th August 3pm Blampied room Mr. Warcup

Wednesday 17th August 11am Blampied Room Mr. Power

For more information please go to,

http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/2011/08/bdo-overview.html

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2011, 03:34:43 PM »
re:They do things differently in the UK where they take confidential leaks seriously, they actually organise a  major official investigation.

The Jersey way response would be

We take all confidential leaks seriously and investigate first to discover who made them, providing they are not a friend or business acqaintence then a major official investigation will follow. If not, then it will be put asside until such a time as it is forgotten about.

That seems to be the general rule of thumb here and I only use confidential leaks as an example because of the above post.

Forgetting confidential leaks and looking at Jerseys politicians and civil servants in general I reckon the phrase "It's not what you know but who you know" should be amended to read "It's not what you've done but who you know".

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2011, 04:44:38 PM »


Further news on SIO Mick Gradwell the disappearing Cop.


Regular readers/viewers will be aware of the ongoing Scrutiny Review concerning the BDO/Alto Report. Among many other things that have come to light is the fact that Mick Gradwell has been accused by a witness, under oath, of leaking a confidential (or parts of) Report to a "journalist" who reportedly has history of supporting convicted Child Abusers. This alleged leak would have happened while "Operation Rectangle" was still an on-going Child Abuse Investigation.

http://voiceforchildren.blogspot.com/2011/08/state-controlled-media.html

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2011, 08:02:45 PM »
Did not Harper and Power also not return?

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 08:18:33 AM »
They had no reason to return, and also both have given comprehensive written and oral evidence to the Scrutiny panel.

Gradwell has refused to do so. His silence is NOT golden, but very telling.

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 09:27:13 PM »
They had no reason to return, and also both have given comprehensive written and oral evidence to the Scrutiny panel.

Gradwell has refused to do so. His silence is NOT golden, but very telling.
I think you may have a delective memory disorder:
Harper refused order to return
http://www.thisisjersey.com/2009/08/22/41768/
Graham Power, who lead the force at the start of the case, will also give evidence by telephone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-14541081

But the News of the World was worthy of a free meal ticket, no need to work out what loyalties these two have,

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2011, 06:28:58 AM »
EEEeeer - we are talking the BDO Alto scrutiny hearing here. All parties concerned have offered comprehensive evidence to the panel either in person or by conference call.

Gradwell has refused to give evidence in any shape or form. End of - simple.

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 08:09:02 AM »
When Gradwell started his job in Jersey i posted that he was well known for covering up dirt for the local council when they were in trouble. So who better to come over here to support our establishment party.
It has been proved that he gave infor to the papers. That alone speaks volumes of kind of person he is.

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2011, 09:15:12 AM »
EEEeeer - we are talking the BDO Alto scrutiny hearing here. All parties concerned have offered comprehensive evidence to the panel either in person or by conference call.

Gradwell has refused to give evidence in any shape or form. End of - simple.


I concur with GeeGee , however let us take it one step further. Ex Police Chief Power stood in the Royal court under oath to argue his case. Lenny Harper has had an affidavit  drawn up so has made a legal document. Getting back to the scrutiny hearing they have both made written submissions and answered questions by phone link, in order to be as helpful as possible. They don't seem at all worried or withdrawn to me.

Let us look at the other players in the big  - blame - game.

 Bill Ogley, Terry Le Suer, Mick Gradwell, Ian Le Marquand and minor civil servants the JEP, BBC, and Channel  TV, all of them dreading disciplinary action which would have seen the accused fight back, and most probably they would have had to appear under oath in court.

It would have been a wonderful day for justice and honesty,( not to mention possible perjury ) had  they all had to stand and  explain why they gave out frankly only parts of a story and mislead in other areas, while not  reporting on the whole truth, thereby misleading the public in the case of the media and worse in the case of the others.

As an example Mr Austin Vautier the chief accountant of home affairs is ultimately responsible for all police spending and signed of without complaint all invoices during the Haut Del le Garrenne investigation without setting a budget ( Bill Ogley said spend what you like ) and at the time Mr Austin -Vautier department uttered not one word  of  complaint.

This fact was buried by the media and Mr Ogley et al.

How many millions of taxpayers pounds have been spent on investigations trying to find fault without any disciplinary action taking place.

So Dundee please tell us, if Mr  Mick Gradwell has nothing to fear, and enjoys  telling the truth as a professional policeman,  why not make a submission like the others, or do you think he has some God given right not to be asked and answers questions.

Why do you think so far……………… he is unwilling to do that ?

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2011, 07:02:11 PM »

I concur with GeeGee .......

How many millions of taxpayers pounds have been spent on investigations trying to find fault without any disciplinary action taking place.

So Dundee please tell us, if Mr  Mick Gradwell has nothing to fear, and enjoys  telling the truth as a professional policeman,  why not make a submission like the others, or do you think he has some God given right not to be asked and answers questions.

Why do you think so far……………… he is unwilling to do that ?

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I think the whole lot is a debacle and waste of tax payers money, the scrutiny panel are as much to blame as anyone else, a bunch of time wasters extraordinaire.

I have no interest in Mr Gradwell, who has as far as I can see little or no blame for the numerous shortcomings of Mr Power and Mr Harper, that you and GG are unable to see it is not my concern.

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Re: What do Napier and Gradwell have in common? refusing to return.
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2011, 12:28:37 PM »
Minister Le Marquand tells us,

THE bar will not be lowered to make it easier for local police officers to rise to the top of the States force, the Home Affairs Minister has said.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/2011/11/22/police-chief-bar-will-not-be-lowered-for-local-officers/

How is Mr Gradwell, refusing to acknowledge speak or appear in front of a scrutiny panel, obviously a man of the highest integrity with nothing to hide. Is this the type of officer Minister Le Marquand wants the local police men to identify with ? Is there going to be a judicial review into the leaking of classified police information while an investigation was ongoing, with Mr Gradwell named as the guilty party at the scrutiny hearings.

Shall we just lift the rug up again ?

Quote:

THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICER OF JERSEY'S "HCAE" MICK GRADWELL WAS LEAKING TO  THE UK JOURNALIST WHO WAS TRASHING THE INVESTIGATION - OUR MEDIA DON'T TOUCH IT -WHY?

http://ricosorda.blogspot.com/


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