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Offline Chevalier Blanc

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Golden Handshake
« on: May 26, 2011, 09:02:59 PM »
£5000,000 and £300,000 for getting the sack for not doing your jog and lying to cover up things!
How the hell the CM has the nerve to say that was the contract we made with these people. Come on they totally F***ked up and got found out so on that bases you should be able to kick them out but hold on a minute. These men have a hold over the ministers for what they have been trying to cover up. So pay up or open up.
The CM and others should resign!!!! There are our school children being stopped their milk, old age pensioners cannot afford to live so on and so on but they give these B******S a beautiful tax free pay out.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 11:56:27 PM »

STATES chief executive Bill Ogley
is to receive a six-figure pay-off when he leaves his job at the end of the month, a States Senator said yesterday.


Speaking at a Scrutiny Panel hearing yesterday Senator Jim Perchard said that both a States chief executive and a former chief officer of Health and Social Services had left their posts with ‘golden handshakes’ worth hundreds of thousands of pounds each.

He referred to one leaving with £500,000 and another with £300,000, but did not specify who had received what. It is understood, however, that the higher figures relates to Mr Ogley’s departure.

The Senator did not give names but was understood to be referring to Mr Ogley and the former chief officer of Health and Social Services Mike Pollard, who resigned in 2009.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/2011/05/26/golden-pay-offs/#comment-105371

It does not end there, its called a final salary pension scheme paying out two thirds of  the employees final year. So how much will Mr Ogley get per year.

JEP

Mr Ogley’s package including salary and pension contributions for 2008 was between £230,000 and £249,999, as reported in the 2008 States of Jersey Annual Report and Accounts.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/2010/06/05/ogley-is-one-of-the-uks-best-paid-civil-servants/


So grab the calculator, pay off after resigning an incredible £500,000 as published remuneration for 2008 given but we are two and a half years on, and civil servants pay themselves bonuses so an increase must be anticipated.

Lets assume £249,999 for   2008 and  £264,999 for 2011 divided  by two thirds of  set pension rules mean Mr Ogley will have to live on £174,894 or £3,364 each and every week of taxpayers money.

You all know how the cutbacks are affecting front line none managerial civil servants positions, so I have a reasonable question.

Why is a small island paying out this money with only 94,000 inhabitants with 45,000 working, many on low incomes. A new cost cutting measure is taking bandages away from home nursing patients already coping with bad health. Phillip Ozouf says there is not enough money in the kitty to look after this charity, that saves patients being  installed in hospital beds.

Make sure you vote, if for no other reason, just for one day, take power back, and release those from office who are allowing this to happen.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 06:33:21 AM »
You must remember that it also goes on the amount of years service you have completed. So their pension will not be as much as you have worked out. Even so it is still disgusting that these two men get the handshake and pension after they were sacked. We all know they were sacked but because they kept their mouths shut they could make a deal like they have.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 06:37:02 AM »
You only get 2/3 pension if you have got 40 years service. It is worked out on 60th. Since 1989 the pension went to 80th for all new employees meaning the max pension would be 50% of their final salary X total amount of years servied.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 11:21:18 AM »
Thanks for the update Chevalier Blanc, I was not correct. It seems a lot of money though esspecially after reading this which has been borrowed from Stuart Syvrets blog submitted by Tim South.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/2009/07/01/39340/

JERSEY’S top civil servant has told the Chief Minister that he was not involved in the set-up of Operation Blast.

In the States yesterday States chief executive Bill Ogley was unmasked as being the ‘second individual’ named in suspended police chief Graham Power’s memo about the secret police dossiers.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/2009/02/04/top-civil-servants-under-fire/

THE integrity and competence of some of the Island’s top civil servants were called into question in the States yesterday as ministers came under sustained attack from backbenchers.

Ministers found themselves in the firing line both for the handling of the suspension of police chief Graham Power and the way in which senior officers at Health allegedly acted in the wake of the death of nurse Elizabeth Rourke

The Chief Minister was forced to admit that States chief executive Bill Ogley – the most senior civil servant – had destroyed hand-written minutes of the meeting to suspend the police chief before Mr Power had agreed that they were accurate.

 Continued..........


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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 06:51:17 PM »
I dont think any of the COM will mind if they are ousted at the next election.

All their nests will be well feathered by now.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 08:00:13 PM »
What kind of contract did Ogley get that he deserves 1/2million quid!!!!! I just don't get it.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 09:13:57 AM »
You could say HUSH MONEY!
Every employee of the States pays 6.25% of their basic wage ( what every is made up on basic wage, overtime unless it is a regular amount of hours ever month is not included in basic wage. Shift payment is. ) When you retire you can sell 25% of your pension meaning £400 per week pension you sell 25% so your pension is £300. The 25% you sold is from the amount that you put in and every pound is worth i think about £19 or there about. So let us say that a person put in £50,000 in total over the years. Then it would be £50,000 divided by 4 = £12,500 now times £19 = £237,500. I am looking at someone with 40 years service. So in this case the Golden Handshake was made up of other things which must have been negotiated if he went early. I would have to think HUSH MONEY. Confidention Agreement never to be put into the public arena. You can only guess what is being kept secret but Hospital, Stuart, HDLG, Power etc etc certainly come to mind.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 12:00:45 PM »




Stuart Syvret as an ex Minister gives his view based on fact and examples for people who want an easy to read insider view that you will not find in the JEP.

If you have ever asked the question are Mr Bill Ogley, Mike Pollard and other senior civil servants really working for Jersey or for self interest, then you might find the answers you are looking for here. It makes interesting reading because many views expressed at the time have come true.

Monday, 5 October 2009

THE JERSEY AUTHORITIES:
TRUSTWORTHY AND ETHICAL?


A CASE-STUDY.

An Evidenced Examination of the Conduct of Bill Ogley,
Jersey’s Chief Civil Servant.

That, in Jersey, senior civil servants will ruthlessly place their self-interest over and above the general public good, and even their specific duties.

That senior civil servants will lie.

That senior civil servants will conspire to protect each other.

That senior civil servants will engage in brazenly criminal actions, if that’s what it takes to protect themselves.

http://stuartsyvret.blogspot.com/2009/10/jersey-authorities.html

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 04:33:16 PM »
I have been in meetings with senior civil servants and have been told " Wemust be seen to be whiter than white" so they just cover up the truth. When you pull them up on their lies you get sidelined and if you still continue to refuse to back down you will be thrown out of a job.
So with the last post it is all true. I have been there.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 04:39:09 PM »
Most people have just taken their tax forms to the tax office realising they are paying considerably more and GST is going up shortly. Inflation and unemployment is high - especially amongst youngsters. Price of basic foods is scandalously high. This couldn't come at a worse time for the States
Why did Perchard announce it ? Was he asked a question about it or did he announce it voluntary ?
Could this be the final straw for some people. Very rarely have I seen so much anger . Revolution ?
The election tend to be always the same with mainly the old conservatives voting. Could it be different this year ?  Only providing new competent people stand for election who could replace the crooked monkeys we have now

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 06:30:09 PM »
I do think that the 'tipping of the scales' is coming perilously close for those now in power and anyone seeking re-election should be very worried.  I would certainly not wish to be in their shoes come election time.

I still don't know whom I shall be voting for, or if I will be voting at all as it all seems to futile.

As an aside:  For the first time in ages I pushed the boat out and visited a plush bijou restaurant this lunchtime which is run by an acclaimed caterer.  Veeeeery expensive, even though I chose the smaller option.  I now feel sick and no it was not the shock of the large bill.  I think it had more to do with the cute little  mouses placed on my plate which were supposed to represent crab and suchlike........Yuk!

Alas the days of a true decent Fruit de Mer for a decent price have gone!

Cali :(

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 09:14:32 PM »
It's a wonder they did not put GST on your tax bill! That is how callus they could be.

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 09:21:06 PM »
Try getting a plain very good meal and you will not find one. You only get high priced over the top done up like an easter bonnet which costs very little to produce. Everyone is taking the P****d out of the normal working class men and women.
As for the next elections everyone must get out and vote these goons out!!!  Let us get some sensible people in that thinks about the Island and it's people and not just sending money and doing underhand things. They must be open!!!!

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Re: Golden Handshake
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2011, 08:47:23 AM »
one ban away from oblivion rsx