Author Topic: Ian Le Marquand to stand for Chief Minister?  (Read 2190 times)

Offline Dundee

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Re: Ian Le Marquand to stand for Chief Minister?
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2011, 07:58:42 PM »
May I suggest that the promising back bencher's hands have  often been tied Sir!

So Mote it be!

Cali

As I thought we are paying these muppets 40K pa. to twiddle their thumbs.

Offline Calimachon

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Re: Ian Le Marquand to stand for Chief Minister?
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2011, 08:32:49 AM »
As I thought we are paying these muppets 40K pa. to twiddle their thumbs.

Twiddling their thumbs is not quite the same as toeing the line..  I am sure the good and genuine in the house are doing what they can to help make things better for the ordinary man in the street where and when they can.

Some past members of the house didn't seek re-election, not necessarily on the last voting day, but on occasions prior to this, because they were frustrated at not being able to make any impression on fellow State's members because of these colleagues totally entrenched views, which were often solely to make money for themselves. One of those views was to build 'Gotham City' on the Waterfront. All about opportunity cost for some I fear.  No money in open green spaces.  Land per square foot is expensive and the rallying cry was build, build, build.

It would be nice to see some balance in the house and we have some good members there now but how long before they become disillusioned?

By asking good members to go against any 'party line' is political suicide.  The 'party line', although it would not like to be viewed as a party is all powerful and crushes anyone who openly speaks against it.  Is this democracy?  Not in my view.

Cali
« Last Edit: October 31, 2011, 08:39:32 AM by Calimachon »
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Re: Ian Le Marquand to stand for Chief Minister?
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2011, 10:47:25 AM »
Dundee have to disagree.

If you have read the Clothier report it was an extremely clever piece of work the main idea was to have a council of ministers to get rid of the Silo Committee mentality but here is the important part to also have  backbenchers work on scrutiny. The clear idea being  a system of checks and balances to stop egotistical, self interested , even corrupt , leadership by the council of ministers.

It  is important to have scrutiny checks in place, in businesses and other walks of life, not only in Government. Philip Ozouf is actually on record saying it’s a waste of time. I guess Hitler wasn’t keen on it either.

The excellent work by  Sarah Ferguson on the corporate scrutiny panel and Deputy Mike Higgins scrutiny of the airport, which has no doubt lead to staff changes.

The Red hot story at this time is the scrutiny taking place by  Deputies Pitman, Wimberely  and Le Herrisier who have done a truly excellent job, of objectively asking the right questions and studying the flawed and expensive BDO Alto Jersey Ltd  report, and looking at the rolls of those involved.

Should you read the detail  surrounding the BDO report and the people involved then a view of  incompetence and failure would surface to most. A mention must also go to Rico Sorda for his detailed input.

The outcome (  IMO ) has given other states members and the public information that otherwise would have been enthusiastically buried. One would hope BDO Alto, no longer gets any  States lucrative contracts after invoicing the States £16,000 to talk about their completed but biased work at the scrutiny hearings.

There are,  as Calimachon says, some good and  demanding backbenchers, let they long continue to ask their questions and bring accountability to the house as Lord Clothier and  public office requires.

Boatyboy
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