Peoples Politics Election 19th Oct. 2011 > Peoples Propositions

Removal of PSV badges those convicted of careless/ dangerous driving

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lara.luke:
I would like a proposition to see that any PSV driver who is convicted of careless or dangerous driving to have their PSV license removed from them. They are supposed to be professional drivers licensed to carry members of the public in their vehicles.

Dylan:
I agree, but would add convicted - or busted by the bus Company, three strikes and you are out etc!
I nearly got roaded by a Telecoms vehicle who undertook me on the avenue when I was doing 40. he must have been doing 60 and he shot the light. I was so angry (forgot my chill pill that morning) that I phoned the Transport manager at Telecoms. He was offended that a member of the public would telephone him to ask why his drivers had permission to drive without Insurance and his authority to break the law. I told him thanks for his lack of support and that the recording would be sent to his boss.
A few days later I had a call to say that the matter had been dealt with.

RC:

--- Quote from: lara.luke on February 02, 2011, 11:09:08 PM ---I would like a proposition to see that any PSV driver who is convicted of careless or dangerous driving to have their PSV license removed from them. They are supposed to be professional drivers licensed to carry members of the public in their vehicles.

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I think loss of livelihood for first conviction is a bit harsh. I was once hit by a cab going through a red light at cheapside and the driver denied the light was red. I went to court and he was convicted. He suffered the court fine, loss of earnings for that day in court, big expensive legal fees as he was stupid enough to hire a useless young lawyer and I imagine his insurance costs will have gone up.
Overall, I thought that was a reasonable fair result. Loss of livelihood would have been a bit severe.

However, I would agree with a "three strikes and your out" approach.

Last week I was on a bus as my car was in the garage and I could believe how bad the driver was. At every bus stop he seemed to pretend that he wasn't going to stop only to slam on the brakes at the very last minute and swerve into the stop. Near First Tower, an oncoming lorry was near the centre of the road, but still plenty of room, and he again slammed on the brakes and shouted out at the top of his voice "F**k, F**k, F**k. The little old ladies at the front of the bus did not look amused.

Calimachon:

--- Quote from: RC on February 03, 2011, 09:57:48 AM ---
Last week I was on a bus as my car was in the garage and I could believe how bad the driver was. At every bus stop he seemed to pretend that he wasn't going to stop only to slam on the brakes at the very last minute and swerve into the stop. Near First Tower, an oncoming lorry was near the centre of the road, but still plenty of room, and he again slammed on the brakes and shouted out at the top of his voice "F**k, F**k, F**k. The little old ladies at the front of the bus did not look amused.

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I was attempting to be a very green citizen a few years ago and was going to work on a bus instead of getting the car out.  (At every bus stop he seemed to pretend that he wasn't going to stop only to slam on the brakes at the very last minute and swerve into the stop. ).  Put me off using the buses again altogether.  I have a bus pass now may have to use them one day but not too soon I hope.

I agree with the three strike approach as well regarding the PSV badges.

Cali :)

Fritz:
The ,"Three strikes", approach to professional drivers is nonsense. They are supposed to be fully trained, "Professionals".
If they are convicted of bad or careless driving they should be sacked.

"Simples".

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