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Offline Chevalier Blanc

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Stuart Syvret in court.
« on: September 27, 2010, 10:16:28 PM »
I have just read ss blog and i just wonder who is the prosecutor and who is going to be the defendants.
A very long read but worth it. I think in the end they will have wished that they never tried to frighten him or anybody else. They have dug themselves a very very deep hole. I truly hope he stands for re-election come next year and tops the poll.
I know some of you will have a go at me but Stuart is the only bright light for anybody helping the local people above the finance services and developers which have destroyed this Island along with the establishment party only interested in making their wealth even bigger at the expence of the people you and i.

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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2010, 04:39:51 PM »
CB - I was actually in Court yesterday and Stuart is fighting (very well and eloquently I have to say) an uphill battle basically against the Establishment. I am sure both he and anybody who cares to sit in and listen to the proceedings will realise there is a determination to thwart his every move and obtain a fair trial. Tonight's RAG states he was defiant - not the correct word to use. He was calm, collected, informed and appeared more professional than Stephen Baker and his team and the Magistrate.

No one can doubt SS's ability to do his homework and do it well. It is patently clear that the Establishment were out to get him, and refused an important and relevant witness to appear for Stuart. Indeed they have refused him all his applications and requests.

I say go for it Stuart and show this lot for what they truly are.

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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 07:57:36 PM »
How can anyone be , "Out to get him", on minor motoring offences?

He thinks he is a smart-arse and is quite happy to cost the tax-payer money on his pointless ego trip.

He reminds me of I guy I knew in the early eighties who never paid his parking tickets. (£20 at the time).

When he was eventually taken to court he would be charged and fined the maximum £5 for failing to pay and have to pay £25 in total.

After many court appearances, the magistrate asked him why he didn,t just pay the £20 tickets when they were issued.

"It costs me an extra fiver every time I am brought to court, but it costs you lot about £500 to bring me here each time", was his reply.

He didn,t get many parking tickets after that.

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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 07:41:25 AM »
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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 08:02:45 AM »
Fritz - the motoring offences are just peripheral. There has most definitely been a bigger agenda here which all revolves  around the police raid and what 'they' were looking for. Furthermore, I think the Data Protection issue was a red herring that the police used as a reason for the raid. After all, the proof of that was already on Stuart's blog.

I guess we will agree to disagree, but a lesser man would be broken by now, and it can't be denied he has balls.




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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 10:19:43 AM »
Gee Gee that was the point that i was making. Stuart's speeches in court as printed in the JEP one would think that he was the solicitor and the rest idiots!  We all know that there is another agenda. Just image if Stuart was killed in an accident ( or so called accident ) you can see the headlines now and not just in the JEP but all the daily papers. They cannot do that so they are trying to break him and they are wasting their time because he will not give up, he will fight until the truth comes out about the whole rotten lot of establishment as been uncovered.

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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 01:10:13 PM »
What the case really boils down to, in the first instance, is whether the public interest disclosure argument will succeed:

"Neither attempt to secure “official” intervention having succeeded, I took the decision to make a public interest disclosure of the 1999 report in accordance with the statutory public interest disclosure clause and the journalism clause in the Data Protection Law. "

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 06:00:56 PM »
I have just read ss blog and i just wonder who is the prosecutor and who is going to be the defendants.
A very long read but worth it. I think in the end they will have wished that they never tried to frighten him or anybody else. They have dug themselves a very very deep hole. I truly hope he stands for re-election come next year and tops the poll.
I know some of you will have a go at me but Stuart is the only bright light for anybody helping the local people above the finance services and developers which have destroyed this Island along with the establishment party only interested in making their wealth even bigger at the expence of the people you and i.

Bless... and hopefully we shall all have turkey for christmas CB . got to love your stickability !

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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 06:32:57 PM »
Fritz - the motoring offences are just peripheral. There has most definitely been a bigger agenda here which all revolves  around the police raid and what 'they' were looking for. Furthermore, I think the Data Protection issue was a red herring that the police used as a reason for the raid. After all, the proof of that was already on Stuart's blog.

I guess we will agree to disagree, but a lesser man would be broken by now, and it can't be denied he has balls.

Very good , but he has a few hurdles to go before he hits the straight Gee Gee , a can understand the long face , since he has pretty much made a mockery of everything that you and your allies believed in , but i doubt this case will be anything like a photo finish ,,,,,,,,,fact is i think it 10/4 that the court will put him out to pasture .

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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2010, 07:00:20 PM »
He is on an ego-trip, pure and simple.

During his privelaged time in The States he got to see legal minds at work, and , like a kid watching a pro-bmx or skateboarding video, thought to himself. "I can do that".

Thing is, professionals at any trade make it look easy.

This eejit actually thinks he is a lawyer after watching a few episodes of Petrocelli.

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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2010, 08:09:36 PM »
Thing is, professionals at any trade make it look easy.

Really? I've never watched a surgeon and thought anyone could do that. Or a dentist and thought, hang on, didn't Mr Bean fill his own teeth, can't be that hard!

I'd sooner have a dentist trying to understand and do law than a lawyer fiddling with my teeth.

Anyone with intelligence and time can master law - look at Jersey Mensa member Alfie Hinds - but it takes real skill to tackle teeth.

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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2010, 11:27:04 PM »
Fritz - the motoring offences are just peripheral.

Was he driving without a valid licence ?
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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2010, 09:02:26 AM »
Anybody who is prepared to stand and fight against the establishment in the way that Stuart has needs a medal. He is showing this Island just how the establishment try to crush anybody who disagrees with them or tries to prove that they are rotten to the core. There is not one person in the States who would go to the extremes that Stuart has to fight for victims of the States Care Department or Hospital Deaths.They are to scared to utter a bad word against the establishment. Here you have a man standing up against all that thy have thrown at him. He has proved in the court this week just how they lie from their back teeth to save their skins and their rich mates. If the States had come out like the Vatican has there would not have been all of these lies etc. and we would not have seen just how rotten they are. They have brought this down on themselves. Tell the first lie and you then have to lie even bigger to cover up the first lie and so it goes on until everybody can see the truth but they will never admit that they are covering up for people.
That to me is what this is all about, to show the people of this Island just how far the establishment will go to protect themselves and friends.

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Re: Stuart Syvret in court.
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2010, 10:02:01 AM »
Was he driving without a valid licence ?

Nobody, Stuart included, would deny that he did not have a valid licence. What his argument is, is that he will never get a fair trial in Jersey, and is also questioning the very extreme methods that were used in the raid on Deputy Labey's home where he was then living. Neither of those two issues can be denied, and if you took the time out to visit the Magistrates Court, you would appreciate just what he is up against.

I am trying to say that there WAS a bigger agenda, and I would also hazard a guess and say that a matter that Deputy Labey was investigating also had a part to play in the bigger picture.

He is fighting his corner on a principle - nowt wrong with that.

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2010, 01:34:57 PM »
Regarding the driving licence, I think it was a mistake to try and fight that. For one thing:

a) it was a clear case of breaking the law
b) cases for the same offense going through the police court (there was certainly one last year) would set a precedent for a fair fine

It is only in the setting of the fine that he could argue that he would not have got a fair trial, but that could only be determed after the event.

Moreover, if the fine was way off the scale of other offenders, then he could be justified in going to appeal on the grounds that he had not got a fair penalty.

I do not think it at all likely that the driving licence infraction would have ever attracted a disproportionate fine. The Magistrate must be aware of precedent.