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Offline Durendal

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Censoring of Free Speech
« on: December 10, 2009, 04:34:43 PM »
I am a pretty fair bloke and if the Blessed SSS™ could give me proof of what he says is the truth I would stand behind him. Unfortunately the demi-god does not believe in an evidentially based law system and refuses to accept that other people’s perceptions may indeed be correct.
I attempted to post the following on his blog but the moderator has not seen fit to allow it through his rigorous vetting (censorship).

Your proof seems to consist of you shouting loudly and using emotive pleas to “prove” your case. I know you purport to be a professional politician but your behaviour throughout this is risible and pusillanimous.
 
Let us look at things logically with regard to the so called cover up:
 
•   Who investigated this case? – A senior team comprising Jersey officers and experts drafted in from other forces.
•   Who decided not to prosecute? – The Jersey AG on advice from a criminal QC as in the case in all serious crimes.
•   What evidence was there?  - Statistics and anecdotal hearsay.
•   How hot was the case? – It was to all intents and purposes quite cold
•   What evidence of a criminal pathological nature was there? – Little it would seem.
•   How many people are involved in the “cover up”?  - Scores and yet there have been no-one involved coming out to complain.
 
 
Besides the obvious fact that there would appear to be a lack of hard proof it is the case that the larger the number involved in any plot/fraud/cover up is that the more people involved then the more likely there is to be leakage. This is why terrorists operate in a cellular structure to prevent leakage and why they are so hard to penetrate. This case along with HLDG involves scores and yet no-one from the inside has come out to present the proverbial smoking gun. In one breath you say the politicians and civil servants are cretins, half-wits and shysters yet on the other have they seem to have formulated the biggest conspiracies since the “falsified landings on the moon” (sic) and the “gunmen on the knoll at the assassination of JFK” (sic)
 
You have not bothered to allow peer review on what you have in your possession but I would hazard a guess that this is no more than briefing papers outlining the potential case against Mr X and it does not include the full papers that the AG and his team would have had to look at. Those full papers would give both the case for and the flaws in the case. You have chosen to ignore the case for the defence and your behaviour is technically known as having “myopic vision” which you may know means being short-sighted and ignoring the larger body of evidence.
 
The only conclusion one can gather from this is that far from being a conviction based politician you are a narcissistic individual hell bent on creating the impression you are fighting for the greater good when you are hell bent on re-writing your place in history and destroying the system and those who have not given you the power and attention you seek.





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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 04:46:19 PM »
Hi durendal.

Great Post

Is this an open debate ( please) or are you just making a statement.

If it is then brilliant when one door closes another one opens. I love this forum

Ps

Its a bit long can we have a link next time cheers  :-*

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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2009, 05:20:45 PM »
I'd 2nd Rico on that. An excellent post Durendal. There is still so much that we don't know, and lots I'm sure that we never will, so its good to see the arguments laid out so clearly and within the wider context. It would be hard to find such lateral thinking in our 'sound bite' 1 minute media.

It looks very much like the former health minister's (FHM's) political career has reached its final stages, a week can be a long time in politics and I'm sure there is still lots of water to flow under this particular bridge (give me the crown of cliche king please), but posts like this help to shine a light on some of the more mystyfying elements of this long drawn out affair - especially for somebody like me who has openly supported the FHM in the past but has found it increasingly more difficult to find the logic in his tactics of late.

This does not mean that I am smitten with the way the COM's and their dreaded comms unit have managed the whole affair. At times I have frankly found them to be little more then village idiots blinded by the headlights of negative publicity. But it seems to be becoming increasingly more difficult to find out which conspiracies actually hold water - but fair play to Rico for continuing to question and most importantly sticking to his principles and continuing to seek justice for those who have had their hopes, indeed lives, dashed in the past. If you can one make one stick Rico then you'll have done something nobody else has online.


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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2009, 06:26:36 PM »
I was recently leafing through "Bad Science", by Ben Goldacre, a Guardian Journo (Kimble's fave rag if I'm not mistaken...................).  Anyway, and talking about alleged "murdering nurses", I thought the link below from a celebrated Dutch case had a certain resonance:

www.badscience.net/2007/04/losing-the-lottery/

Not sure if that works as a link on this, maybe cut and paste into your browser - I don't think you will be disappointed.  Poor Lucia (maybe)!  Poor Jersey Nurse X (maybe)!  Which is the point, innocent until proved guilty and all that......................something the runaway Senator wasn't prepared to allow our chap.  Due process huh?  A real pain for sure!

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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2009, 06:34:04 PM »
Oh, and here is a link to her case, I would have cut and pasted all of it but I know how much you all hate that....apparently she is up for a re-trial.  Still, nice to know it couldn't happen here eh?

luciadeb.nl/english/index.html


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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2009, 06:37:11 PM »
Sorry, omitted the www bit so:

www.luciadeb.nl/english/index.html

Nurse, the screens.............

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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2009, 08:21:32 AM »
Excellent stuff ruddler and a very good read

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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2009, 07:25:38 PM »
Good post Durendal, there's a lot of fair questions.
The biggest problem now seems to be if anyone agrees with anything he says your a follower with no brain and can't think for yourself, If you disagree your part of the establishment. It's no win situation for everyone.
Personally I agree with some of the things he's said and disagree with others.

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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 10:26:08 AM »
Newmac

You just gave yourself away your roy le herrisier lol

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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 11:01:51 AM »
Rico,

I can Promise you I have no splinters ;D

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Re: Censoring of Free Speech
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 11:30:43 AM »
Not Roy as he repeats everything he says twice.