Repatriation of 5 year Contract Workers

[Calimachon]

Do we have as a nation (Little Jersey, little, little Jersey) a duty of care to assist in the Repatriation of 5 year Contract workers, or anyone in the finance industry who has been made redundant and who was employed on similar terms?

As I heard on the radio this morning these people have families with resultant needs, education of children, the cost and emotional upset of relocation, possibly with no employment at the end of it.

It is in their contract that they have to go soonest and admittedly they should have realised that redundancy could happen but, to be  honest, who really believes they will come upon hard times.

So is there a duty of care to our imported labour in the finance industry?

Should we be asked to assist in this way for workers involved in any other industry?

Can we afford it?

Should we allow them more time to repatriate or insist they vacate the island immediately?

Would the island get a bad name regarding any future employment requirements if we don't assist with repatriation?

Your views please.

Cali

[Chevalier Blanc]

I would think any person with a family would most likely be put off coming here under those terms of employment. Should their salary be such a large one they may take the chance by banking most of their earning so as to have a large amount of money to go back with and maybe buy a lovely house. Yes they would have to look at it that way i think, good way to make large sum of money to set  up for life. The only thing is to make sure that you do not fall into the trap of socialising with the people that you would be in the same bracket. There was a manager employed with the States, now he was very intelligent and the wife was a teacher. He was in charge of a machine workshop and he had no idea of any of the work ,just not his field but he took the crap that came his way and after 2 years left to go and live on an island somewhere in Scotland, self sufficient life style and the mother taught the 3 children at home. The father was nicked named green pea because he was one of those with us wife wanted to save the planet hence going to live on a remote island with that way of life. His brother you hear sometimes in the State sittings ( will not give name ). Remember how many people go out to Saudi Arabia on 3 year contracts so yes i think people will still come here to work knowing that there is a chance they could be made redundant.

[Calimachon]

Yes but do we have a duty of care to assist the people who have not saved for the day they are made redundant and all the financial difficulties that presents?

It looks as though there is a Settlement Entitlement in place to help with repatriation so maybe that is not so important, but the other questions still apply and especially to other industries too, who may not have a Settlement Entitlement in place.

Cali

[Norman_Point]

As I mentioned in another thread, I practised in Israel some years ago -  on a fixed-term contract.  As such, I (and others like me) ensured that I had enough money in the bank to underwrite my return from that country when the time came.

While I feel sympathy for anyone whose plans and career paths have been smashed by the current recession, many (not all, I know) men and women working in the finance industry had plenty of opportunity during the "fat years" to make provision for the "thin years".

[stoneface]

As I mentioned in another thread, I practised in Israel some years ago [].

What did you practise? This is not a loaded or sarcastic question, just curiosity.

[rogueelement]

Having had some discourse with Norman I believe he practiced Onastic skills to a huge degree.

[Norman_Point]

What did you practise? This is not a loaded or sarcastic question, just curiosity.

Sheba Medical Centre, Ramat Gan, and also in Dimona.

What I think Spartacus clumsily - and yet erroneously - referred to is onanism.  We have all done that at some times in our lives.  If you want to insult people, you really should get the word right first time.

[Chevalier Blanc]

Looking at the JEP on Tuesday night issue page 17 the men rebuilding the hut on the Ecrehous. I just wondered where the H & S department offices were. It would have made a nice day out for them to check that all safety procedures were in use. It was only a garden shed there before now it is a block build house. They must know Freddie, perhaps he will take holidays there.

[Fritz]

Note to self:

To prevent the, "Safety Elf", from pushing up the cost of future projects, simply incorporate a decent sized moat .

[Chevalier Blanc]

Anybody coming here on a 5 year contract and is made redundant;
1 they have a contract so they would be entitled to a payment and if this is not in the contract then they should have realised that and no to giving them a resettlement handout from the public purse. They have to take the chance the same as everybody else.

[Chevalier Blanc]

You have a brilliant idea there but i tell you now, H&S will have seen that photo and remember it all has to go through planning and inspections should be taking place in the same way as on the island so the rules apply at the Ecrehous. It might be interesting to watchout for something about this project.

[Adrian]

Can I be repatriated to the Uk so I can have sabbatical for a few years on benefits?

[danrok]

If a worker in this category loses their job during good times, the chance are they will find employment somewhere else.

If there is any major downturn in the finance industry, we won't have enough money to support people who were born here, let alone anyone else.

It could be worse, ex-pat finance workers in Dubai face jail if they don't pay their bills on time - hence rows of cars abandoned by fleeing workers at the airport.

[man in the street]

i do not see why the tax payer should fund these people, they get a lot on the plate when they arrive.
 its a 5 year contract ,who said it would renew,and unlucky if the job goes down the pan.
what does the local get when made redundant? a fat pile of paper work to fill in to get a bit of existance money thats what.
why do we veiw these people as the life blood of the island?

[stoofa]

Do we have as a nation (Little Jersey, little, little Jersey) a duty of care to assist in the Repatriation of 5 year Contract workers, or anyone in the finance industry who has been made redundant and who was employed on similar terms?

No.

All people coming to the island for these purposes do so for their own benefit - if your going to socialise personal risk to this extent you need to socilaise the rewards as well.

Allowing a suitably reasonable time for repatriation is about as far as Jersey needs to go.

In my view the employer in such cases is the only party with a moral (if not legal) duty of care in these circumstances - even then one could argue the individual should have known the risk he was taking. 'I didn't think it would happen' isn't exactly a get out. Always read what you sign...