Hypocrite on freedom of speech and human rights

[Deputy Dawg]

Last Friday I posted a message to Stuart Syvret’s blog. I mentioned that the two unnamed politicians who are apparently supporting him quietly without being named are perhaps the Jail Dodger 2 Southern and Pitman, I expect one of them at the least. I mentioned this because I had been wondering why Syvret would condone this affront on democracy and fair play and try to turn it around as do the whole of the JDA and call the law to prevent an attack on democracy and attack on human rights. Could it be that this is a case of political back scratching? Condoning breaking the law and corrupting democracy has nothing at all to do with human rights, and I have said many a time that if the Jail Dodger Associates wanted to show that this law was incorrect then they should have gone and helped people in a parish or area with no JDA candidates standing.

Syvret appears to be siding with law breakers simply because they are quietly supporting him while not noticing that corrupting democracy goes against everyone’s human rights. Why do I mention it here? Well, the answer is that St Stuart seem to not want free speech on his blog. Though posted on Friday, it has never appeared, not that he has EVER allowed any of my posts on as they do not agree with the “show of support” that he is trying to portray. I would suggest that if the truth were out, it would be an awful lot of posts that were not in support that never saw the light of day and this from someone who harps on about free speech and human rights. What a complete hypocrite.

The ten posters who he does allow to post repeat time and again the same diatribe against their own personal and mostly made up culprits. Their attack on all members of the yacht club, attack on people who do not agree with them, on the politicians who have different views, on his own electorate, naming them on his blog and inciting hatred and disharmony.

This is the man who WAS the health minister for 10 years, who did NOTHING to look after children when he had the power to do so, who in 20 years has brought forward nothing more than bringing into the states a law brought forward by Deputy Le Claire and who wanders from one set of misinformation to another clutching his book on human rights and free speech while NOT allowing anyone else on his blog the same rights he so loudly proclaims he is due.
 
What a total hypocrite.

[Norman_Point]

And here was me, innocently believing that all Jersey-related blogs supported democracy and free speech.

Perhaps Syvret can be left to manage his blog -  whether people agree with the views expressed there or not - on his own?

[Dylan]

Stormin' Norman! You must be a SSS licker!

[ole razzy]

Like it or loath it he broke the ground. Or maybe better to say he was in at the ground floor. To a large extent, he created the conceptual space in which we choose to operate and for a long time he led the way in terms of Jersey's alternative new media content. This is no obituary but there's now a diaspora of viewpoints and my feeling is that his blog has lost a little bit of momentum of late. Which given the progress made as a result of its existence is perhaps understandable.

I found Planet Jersey about a year ago as a link on Stuart's site. It was the gossip I was hearing in every day life about the cyber insults he was hurling at various establishment figures that got me hooked.

 

[Dylan]

Like it or loath it he broke the ground. Or maybe better to say he was in at the ground floor. To a large extent, he created the conceptual space in which we choose to operate and for a long time he led the way in terms of Jersey's alternative new media content. This is no obituary but there's now a diaspora of viewpoints and my feeling is that his blog has lost a little bit of momentum of late. Which given the progress made as a result of its existence is perhaps understandable.

I found Planet Jersey about a year ago as a link on Stuart's site. It was the gossip I was hearing in every day life about the cyber insults he was hurling at various establishment figures that got me hooked.

 

Have you tried "PJ anonymous?"

[ole razzy]

No it's on the same night as my AA meetings. Who runs the Program? Not a GI by any chance is it?

[Deputy Dawg]

The fact that he does not care to print a lot of oppositional view points is up to him, it is his blog after all...

The fact that several people , maybe hundreds , maybe thousands ,disagree with both that style of forum and the content is mostly irrelevant. I do not feel my freedom of speech is impugned by virtue of it not being printed there as it can be printed here...

He would only be a hypocrite if he offered freedom of speech and then denied it. since it has not been offered it cannot be denied

The blog itself has the opportunity to allow all posts even without the intervention of the blog owner and I respect his right to vet posts for libel etc before allowing them.

However, as St Stuart is a self proclaimed fighter for free speech, then the fact that he prevents the very same Free Speech on his blog and not just remove libel is hypocritical.

Freedom of speech should encompass even the thoughts that you do not agree with, that is why there is the very apt saying "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it" or words to that effect. St Stuart only defends the right to say what he believes in, and it is evident that this is propogated through the 10 deciples on his blog.

From the vile Blog

. You naughty man you did not allow him to exercise his rights of "Freedom of Speech" on YOUR blog to undermine yet again those who have been abused, those who stand up for equal rights for all.

If these people were not so thick it would be funny. I would love to see their definitionof EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL when the very blog itself conflicts this to the Nth degree.

Had my say now, I will get posting back on some more serious issues here on PJ where I do get my chance at free speech.

[Fritz]

Totally agree with you DD.

Whats the point of spouting off about ,"Freedom of speech", etc. and censoring replies?

I used to think St.Stu had some credibility when he challenged , "The Establishment"?, and was out to do something worthwhile.

Unfortunately, he has dissapeared up his own arse and now feeds off his ,"Chosen few", accolytes praise.

[Dylan]

No it's on the same night as my AA meetings. Who runs the Program? Not a GI by any chance is it?

Nope, but nearly there, it's run by an EX-(sorry Alvin with de franchise on capslocks an shitey pizza priceddaovverrdatoppforadalocals only)
Gunner who was blown up after a hailstorm of bullets at the famous battle of Compass Hill. Res? Where the hell is that Toyota an why in tarnation does is stink so badly of Bush hog on heat???

[Adrian]

When is Syvret going to write his book?

[Dylan]

Interesting that the Hippocratic Oath written by Pythagoreans contains the mantra "Above all - do no harm" !!

[boatyboy]

If I had a blog, then it would serve the purpose of espousing my views and opinions.There are lots of bloggers out there who spout off in fine style about all sorts of issues , Rush Limbaugh being one of favourites.Obviously he is mad as a rat but you can have a laugh at some of his comments and he is extremely intelligent which helps a lot.
With regard to Syvret , he is entitled to his views , and entitled to express his opinions in so far as they are not libelous and we are entitled to dispute those views.The fact that he does not care to print a lot of oppositional view points is up to him, it is his blog after all . I read his blog on a regular basis and have had the courtesy of having a few of my comments printed and fair play for that!
The point is his blog is not a "chatsite" where people can dispute and argue. It is HIS blog and until such time as he makes some sort of promise at the top of the blog saying that all opinions will be printed, then you have to accept that it is a closed forum; that is his entitlement. The fact that several people , maybe hundreds , maybe thousands ,disagree with both that style of forum and the content is mostly irrelevant. I do not feel my freedom of speech is impugned by virtue of it not being printed there as it can be printed here.
He would only be a hypocrite if he offered freedom of speech and then denied it. since it has not been offered it cannot be denied.
If he is happy to have the same individuals constantly telling him how clever he is , how brave he is and how much the pray for him , whilst expressing the view that certain people should burn in hell, that certain clubs and society's are the work of the devil, then , again that is his right.(I am sure that he would like to lose a few of his more ardent admirers anyway)
Je reste ma valise.

Spartacus is spot on and put his points over in a balanced and even handed way. Syvret and any of us, can debate one subject for hours. He has several large headings, that PJ has interacted with in free speech on this open Forum. No excuses but why go on your own blog to debate when you have been debating all day. You come on open forums like this. It does not mean people who hold private blogs do not share similer values on freedom of expression.

BB

[danrok]

Stuart Syvret has compromised himself, by stating that he lets everything through, with some understandable exceptions.  When in fact he clearly doesn't follow his own policy.

However, that doesn't mean your freedom of speech has been taken from you, because you still have the right to express yourself elsewhere, and you haven't been arrested and locked up in a shipping container.

In any case, we don't have absolute freedom of speech.  It doesn't exist anywhere in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

[Deputy Dawg]

I don't complain that my freedom of speech is removed as I have other avenues, but that he is a hypocrite for bearing the standard of free speech while not allowing it on his own blog which should encompass the same standards in free speech he is trying to attain from the likes of the JEP.

His actions make him a hypocrite and a charlatan and I can't wait for the acolytes to eventually see through him as some day they must. You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but not all of the people all of the time. St Syvrets supporters seem to fall into the "some of the people" but as time goes on, more will see through his self preened image.

[more]

   In my opinion D.Dawg you' ve got it wrong. Wonder how long you have been in the Island. People  needed someone like S.Syvret in the States for all the years his been in there.
    Right from the start of S. Syvret's being in the States. He and N. Le Brocq. in his time. Have continually tried getting at the truth in and of States decisions made. Have solely done the best possible they could to get fairer deals. When its come to the ordinary people of this Island. Also D. Shenton did in his time. It takes backbone  to take the flack  and opposition from the states all these years. He alone has had the guts to bring this last fiasco of the hospital that came up this Tuesday, also having done with others  for many years.This is what he will  be remembered for, continually battling Gov opposition. Naturally not always right  in all matters. But does the best he can in bringing nessary info in ordinary peoples lives and in their favour.
  .  Flack from gov as well as those like you. N. Le Brocq and D. Shenton where never
flavour of the month during their time in the States or outside it. No one is perfect Take a  good look at politians who having come in  the last election and not afraid to speak out or vote accordingly like S. Syvret. Hopefully more will enter at the next election. Hopefully giving more of an equal balance.