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Offline the 13th parish

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Bullies in cyberspace
« on: February 28, 2009, 08:17:56 AM »
From Senator Jim Perchard.
WE live in an internet age. Communicating to people around the world is a matter of a few clicks of the mouse.

However, if you look at this internet age from a different point of view, you will realise that it has in fact bred some illegal and unethical practices.

While some use the internet for gaining information, others use it for destruction of sensitive data, or for demeaning and abusing individuals or organisations. While some use the web as a communication platform, others use it for and derive pleasure from intruding in the internet privacy of individuals and seek enjoyment from cyber-bullying.

Cyber-bullying and internet ab-use is a growing and serious concern. The remoteness, even anony-mity, provided by the internet encourages many users to behave with a boldness they would not otherwise display in any face-to-face encounters.

It is widely claimed that adult bullies are unable to cope with their own lives and problems and that they are easily intimidated and have strong feelings of jealousy and inadequacy.

They are thought to be desperate to receive attention, which they probably don’t receive at home or in relationships. I have noticed that they continually seek to discredit those in authority, particularly those who are influential, knowledgeable, capable and successful.

Even though many of them will understand when they have behaved wrongly, they still wish to appear as though they are morally superior. Strangely, they insist that others have attacked them and that they are the victims. It seems to me that they seek to lead and manipulate an unsuspecting group of their virtual friends to bandwagon, or gang up on, a target and try to gain attention for themselves by any means possible, usually through humiliating their target.

It is true that occasionally they can appear plausible, by introducing a cocktail of fact and fiction, but I am convinced that cyber-bullies are always vindictive and manipulative liars. They often, in an attempt to justify their behaviour, threaten their target with referral to a higher authority, eg the law, the UK Ministry of Justice, even the European courts, imagining that such authorities would be interested in the detail behind their vindictive tirade of abuse and bullying.

It seems that they are unable to internalise their own behaviours and become angry and unreasonable if someone attempts to point out how they were wrong or how their behaviour was unacceptable.

Cyber-bullies, like all bullies, will eventually prey on those closest to them in order to resist entering into permanent and lasting friendships. This is because they are mentally disturbed people who are incapable of having meaningful relationships. It is symptomatic that they find solace and power alone in their virtual world in front of their computer screens.

We as a society are learning about cyber-bullying at great personal and emotional cost to the many victims and their families. I hope that it will not be long before we establish acceptable boundaries in respect of the rights to freedom of expression, balanced against the rights to security and privacy of the individual.

I have given very careful consideration to the content of this letter, as I know it will provoke a hostile reaction in my direction, from cyber-bullies and internet abusers, those who believe it is their right to publish on the internet defamatory and hostile untruths about others. I for one am prepared to stand up to these bullies. I shall not be intimidated by them.
Le Perchoir,
Rue de la Vignette,
St Martin.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/2009/02/28/bullies-in-cyberspace/
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009, 08:22:03 AM »
Awesome.

It is the age of Information Technology and free speech.


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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 08:32:00 AM »
Awesome.

It is the age of Information Technology and free speech.


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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 10:27:03 AM »
Anybody can set up a blog and try to create tension.  True/untrue the reader will decide.

But it is freedom of speech and James Perchard has to get into touch with the technogical age.

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Re: Bullies in cyberspace
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 10:31:00 AM »
Jim Perchard.......Bullying.......in my opinion a case of pot, kettle, black.

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 12:01:56 PM »
Perchard just doesn't get it.  The internet is nothing more than electronics and computers, a medium which allows communication.

People can use other methods to "get at" someone if that's what they want to do, e.g. harassment by phone calls, a turd in the mail, etc.

We don't blame the telephone network or post office for things like that, so why single out the internet?

Probably has something to do with newspapers and all their attention seeking internet related stories, which vastly exaggerates problems.  Just another bandwagon for non-thinkers to jump on...

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 01:03:25 PM »
Senator Jim Perchard is right, it is easy for cowards to name call, and get personal and nasty behind an assumed name. It is also wrong and the lazy way. Posting a letter takes more work and costs money Danrock but I do agree with the basis of your post above.

If a politician makes a decision and you disagree with it, there should be a factual reason for this. Take the incinerator debate, De Faye said the emissions were completely safe, as did the Jersey officer for Health. Deputy Wimberly and a Professor who gave the well received  talk at St. Pauls stated the emissions were not safe. No need for name calling just get it sorted out.

You are also correct  Senator Perchard, there is a lot of rubbish posted on this and other forums ( you can include this if you wish ) also offered is great deal of fact, thought and common-sense written by people affected directly by policies you have a hand in deciding.

We do not hear comment from Sarah Ferguson, Sean Power, Stuart Syvret, about how the internet information highway has made them targets for ridicule like yourself Sir, because they have all written on here in depth. Sean Power getting an especially hard time for a while. He was big enough to take it and guess what we are all grown up. My favourite name at the moment is Fred the Shred, who got shredded by a Parlimentary Committee, sorry you’ve got to laugh !

No Senator Perchard, it seems very clear, the secrets, the spending, the lies, the poor policy decisions can and will be commented on by us. Real working living people, affected by the ridiculous GST, amongest other measures at a time when you continue to employ more expensive civil servants, and consultants. The States are legally stealing our money, without putting the effort into clearing out deadwood and making real efficiency savings.

Gil Blackwood,  retired Consultant Psychiatrist,  has published his views on (Voiceforjersey) about your hospital Executive Management, who lied to the JEP .. Is he doing wrong, or has he the right to free speech ?  Those that have an open mind will enjoy looking out of the ivory tower to see how the real world is working and what needs fixing, rather than relying on a few suits who present their report, their view.

Those who enjoy the dark corridors of power and use spin to create an illusion should ask themselves why are they so afraid of the information highway. The answer is simple, for the first time you cannot control it.

Boatyboy.
 
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There is a link to Voiceforjersey in the main menu under other forums, broadband is recommended as it is in film format.
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Offline Wayne Rooney

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Re: Bullies in cyberspace
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2009, 02:48:53 AM »
Jim Perchard says in his letter to the JEP "We as a society are learning about cyber-bullying at great personal and emotional cost to the many victims and their families. I hope that it will not be long before we establish acceptable boundaries in respect of the rights to freedom of expression, balanced against the rights to security and privacy of the individual." Is he not right ? At least in this respect ?

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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2009, 05:37:32 AM »
Someone posted an interesting piece on The Vile Blog yesterday regarding Alphonse Le Gastelois and in fairness SSS responded, refuting to an extent any comparision between the hounding and eventual exile of Le Gastelois (an odd character who "everyone" said was responsible for the Paisnel crimes) to the Ecrehous and the current cyber campaign against various named individuals relating to HDLG et al.  Just the name took me straight back to my childhood in the 60's when my parents, to their subsequent regret, admitted that almost everyone they knew thought Le Gastelois done it.  It was a shameful episode reflecting no credit on anyone, but was symptomatic of the hysteria prevalent on the rock before Paisnel was arrested and jailed (we seemed to be able to manage quite well then with a similar justice system to now!).  Le Gastelois got hate mail and he and his house were attacked, windows were broken (as eventually was he), my dad met him out on the reef onceon a fishing trip, said he wasn't much of a conversationalist.  Some interesting historical parallels I think............................

The point in relation to this topic is bullying is nothing new, allegations easy to make and hard to refute, and quite how the current "name and shame" campaign can possibly ensure fair trials and justice is I have to say beyond me, seems the court is of a similar view?  Still, maybe cyber bullying is better than the actual physical abuse Le Gastelois was on the receiving end of, at least as many have said, you don't have to read Blogs or chat forums!

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Re: Bullies in cyberspace
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2009, 05:39:55 AM »
Maybe he is, but the only way to enforce it would be for each of us to have a unique, verifiable internet identity.

That would introduce a whole load of other problems, not least the stifling of whistleblowing that an open internet currently facilitates.

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2009, 05:45:42 AM »
I agree with you there PdT, the glory of the internet is the freedom of it and I wouldn't favour any censorship at least of freedom of speech.  However, as was once said, freedom of speech doesn't extend to shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre if there isn't one so I guess everyone posting on blogs needs to be responsible if both content and tone.  I think the rules on this site have it about right.

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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2009, 05:56:26 AM »
Hi ruddler

Alphonse le Gastelois is a tragic story for sure its up there with the jersey wartime collaboration  a dark time in our history ..

I also think we have to remember the fear the island was under at the time real fear..

My mate & his sister who lived out in the sticks had metal bars on there bedroom window and the parents slept in the next room one door in and out.. The bars are stiil on the window..

The island was in real fear they wanted him caught and wanted him caught fast.

Now as a side issue if anybody is interested have a look at the whole Beast of Jersey story and see how he was able to get away with it for so long .... A pillar of  society some said

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2009, 06:33:16 AM »
Paisnel was very well known, my father knew him and says he was a very pleasant and friendly person, prior to being caught.  And, he didn't look like those distorted photos, used by the newspapers at the time.

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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2009, 06:48:55 AM »
Rico, you said "the Island wanted him caught and wanted him caught fast."  That's my real concern relating it to the current situation.  In the 60's "everyone knew" it was him, except of course it wasn't.  So, although some of those named and shamed in blogs/the States may have done some unpleasant and possibly even illegal things the almost vigilante atmosphere now is not one that I think is conducive to the delivery of justice - which is what we all want isn't it?

I'm not much of a fan of JP and he may have been overpromoted at Health but he said in the States recently he wasn't going to allow McCarthyite witch hunts to go on and on that, if not much else, I agree with him.  I know SSS and others do not believe in either our current justice system or the type of democracy we have, fair enough, but I would rather rely on our courts than politicians playing out their own agendas.

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2009, 10:51:28 AM »
From reading Perchards letter, he obviously feels that anyone who disagrees with him is a bully,

I would say after reading it his main grip is about the current questioning he is receiving with regards his and Pollards performance and ability at the hospital.
As he is willing to stand up to people he claims are bullies why not just respond to the claims that have been made against him instead of having a very badly and thinly veiled go at Senator Syvret.