MUMS IN CHARGE.

[churchill]

So come on whats going on mums verses geof southern .  ?

[tonytheprof]

Geoff Southern tears Jeremy off a strip because he discussed matters with his mother, and then sends his email - with all the previous correspondence amout a reform pressure group, including the remarks about fence-sitters and people playing both sides - naming colleagues, and king-makers, and how they need to form a pressure group - to all States members. And expects there won't be a leak!

The word "prat" springs to mind, I'm afraid.

Geoff needs to learn that the Ship of State is the only ship which leaks from the top (Yes Minister episode "The Bed of Nails")

Or did he intend his entire strategy to be given out to everyone?

Somehow I don't think young Jeremy will be too likely to join the JDA in the near future.

[David Rotherham]

In a brief private exchange of emails, Geoff tells me he only copied in two others. I am not going to leak them, too, but I can guess which one of them was to blame for publishing it, from past form.

[Eastern correspondent]

Somewhere on this blog there is a series of messages from Nellie Macon detailing an exchange between herself and a Mr Rankin at a senatorial meeting, the exchange was quite heated!

Mr Rankins wife is in a senior position at CTV I just wonder if there is any connection between the first incident and the news item!

Leaving aside the actual content of the emails consider the news item and why CTV reported on the issue.

[David Rotherham]

Geoff has asked me to clarify that he did not supply or authorise the supply of his emails to the press. He only copied in two senior States Members, whom one would expect to be in the loop of such discussions. One of these took the initiative to leak, unless the Macons themselves rashly did.

[John de la Haye]

Smacks of the new boy on the football pitch having his face shoved in the mud deliberately by the old boys. More fool him.

John.

[boatyboy]

David to quote you,

Geoff has asked me to clarify that he did not supply or authorise the supply of his emails to the press. He only copied in two senior States Members

 I am informed most of the elected members use PJ for information. As a very good researcher, I would be very suprised if Deputy Southern, did not also use this site ?

So everyone is having a go at mum speaking for the young Machon, Why can't Geof Southern come on here and speak for himself ? Is there Irony here ?

Boatyboy

[David Rotherham]

Planet Jersey started out as Jason the Maverick's site, and, for all I know, still is, behind the scenes. Nobody else in the JDA Council wants to risk tarnishing their names by registering on it. Look back on the rough ride I got, over the Daffodil Rally, to see an example of why they don't need the hassle. Moreover, if I were as busy with important stuff as Geoff, I wouldn't bother, either.

[en830]

The public domain can be a very inhospitable place for the unwary, look what happened to Walker on Newsnight. Southern wouldn't want to suffer in the same way and also put something in writing that he may regret later. In any case, as secretary, David can speak for the party as much as any of its leaders.

Despite my face to face invitation to Jeremy to come on here, his mother still took on the role of spokeswoman for the Macon senatorial campaign on PJ. Personally I like the guy and his no no nonsense plain talking style. So I say give him a chance to show his credentials, and if you still feel he's a waste of space, help to vote him out next time around.


As for JTM, that's old news.

[danrok]

Planet Jersey started out as Jason the Maverick's site, and, for all I know, still is, behind the scenes. Nobody else in the JDA Council wants to risk tarnishing their names by registering on it. Look back on the rough ride I got, over the Daffodil Rally, to see an example of why they don't need the hassle. Moreover, if I were as busy with important stuff as Geoff, I wouldn't bother, either.

This is an online community, what you see here is created by members of the community, not the site administrators alone.  The vast majority who post here do not have any connection with JTM (whoever he may be).

It is that content, posted by members, which makes the forum what it is.  Does it really matter who is "behind the scenes"?  The admins are only ensuring that things run smoothly.  I've seen very little moderation in recent months, which is a good thing.  Things were a bit unsettled to begin with, but I think that is only to be expected when a new and quite busy forum gets started.

[boatyboy]

David,

I wish you no harm, its interesting to hear everyone's view point.

Nobody else in the JDA Council wants to risk tarnishing their names by registering on it.

I agree that planetjersey can be a little rough, however, Admin and the Mods know that minority always trys to spoil the fun of the majority.

It is for that reason that politians can, should they wish stop blatent personal, and abusive personal attacks on themselves by being given the Mod status. This is of course is for their protection, maybe you did not know this.

I find it sad that, that some politicians are so small minded and unconfident of the policies they purport are in the best interests of the public, and yet do not want to discuss them on PJ, a forum of real people who care about such matters. Could it be that these policies do not hold water. With the information at their disposal, one would have thought they could run rings around most of us on here. Either way, how could explaining their viewpoint tarnish their reputation ?

Wow.

BB

[tonytheprof]

I've noticed Sean Power makes good use of Planet Jersey to explain and reply. Sarah Ferguson did so, but I've not seen any postings of late, but she is probably busy elsewhere at the moment.

Of course you can contact any States member directly, but the useful thing about Planet Jersey is the opportunity to bat ideas around, both with the politician and other members of the public.

[David Rotherham]

Boaty Boy

PJ may be a forum of real people to you, but I can put faces to only about ten of my fellow posters. The anonymity of the web has its advantages, but the big downside is that you never know if the other party in a debate is for real, or just trolling.
So we have an online community of 306 here, and maybe 100 more who do the other local fora, but boycott this one, not all of whom are genuine anyway. I sign up to all the fora because I like to participate in them. If my JDA colleagues find "web 2.0" less interesting as a pastime, then I cannot recommend that they spend their valuable time doing the fora on strategic grounds - the audience is too small, and too much of it is not taking any notice anyway. 

[churchill]

I would like to say that Jeremy has a wonderful mum and her support for Jeremy will be much needed  in his dealings with politicians.

It is going to be tough for all the new deputies but my advise would be to watch and listen and think hard and long before they say anything especially to the media.

Jeremy as a new comer has my support and i wish him well ,as i do all the new deputies.
I hope in the future to be joining them in the next elections.
I will stand for constable of st helier next time around and it wont be a protest stand this time .
alvin.

[Seamus O Gallo]

Churchill, Jeremy had a very good turnout which included me in the following. Blinded by the novelty I now begin to wonder who I voted for, Jeremy or Nellie? Got any idea?