Will NOT vote for

[moot]

I was considering Jeremy as a protest vote until I read in today's JEP that, when asked which newspapers he reads, his reply was : I only read the JEP !!
That's him out for me...

[Razzard]

I was considering Jeremy as a protest vote until I read in today's JEP that, when asked which newspapers he reads, his reply was : I only read the JEP !!
That's him out for me...

Agreed. He needs to get a decent job and socilise with new and younger work colleagues. Its' going to be no fun looking round the members room at the end of the day and thinking - "well maybe I will ask Alan McLean if he wants to go for a pint in the Cock & Bottle"

[The Rev Peter Sarkey]

I was considering Jeremy as a protest vote until I read in today's JEP that, when asked which newspapers he reads, his reply was : I only read the JEP !!
That's him out for me...

It was actually the beano

[Fritz]

Has Jeremy got a job?

[moot]

Has Jeremy got a job?

Yes, he has a job getting elected !

[Fritz]

It was a serious question moot. What does he do for a living?

[Nellie Macon]

He's a project assistant at Ogiers

[The Rev Peter Sarkey]

What's that? what 30 years ago would be called a grade 3 admin clerk?

[Nellie Macon]

It's the first step on the HR career ladder actually. Like many students this summer, Jeremy has found it really difficult to find a job where employers are prepared to train youngsters - despite what the Economics Minister and his Deputy would have us believe - that's why some of Jeremy's friends left a couple of weeks ago - no decent jobs or training and no prospect of owning their own home. Everyone has to start somewhere.

Jeremy has been involved in the Youth Parliament, school debates, year representative and other areas which are a good gorunding for a political career as he has been planning this since he was 16. He chose HR as he thought this would be good experience in dealing with a wide range of issues in the workplace and he wanted to gain a qualification in this field but employers simply don't want to fund the training.

It's really tough for our young people out there - that's one of the reasons Jeremy is standing - he does know how hard it is for young people to be taken seriously and your comment is just typical of so many people's attitude. Just because they're young does not mean they have no understanding of how hard it is to make ends meet or how difficult it is to find a decent job. If their families are not wealthy, they see the worry and hardship their parents have to go through to pay the bills and keep a roof over their heads. As I work fulltime Jeremy used to do the shopping after his classes so he is well aware of the cost of groceries and knows all about budgetting. He's seen his father stressed out when customers don't pay their bills on time but we have to pay other people in the meantime. Just because you're young does not mean you live in an ivory tower - that only applies if you're rich.

[en830]

Nellie, is Jeremy only temporarily employed at the moment then ?

[Nellie Macon]

He's on a 6 month contract - therefore no training or exams. Typical Jersey investment in youth. The only good thing that will come out of this is a bit of experience and Ogiers will look good on his CV.

Senator Ozouf is so out of touch with what's going on in the workplace nowadays. Firms don't take people on permanently to avoid training and examination fees and of course you're not eligible for salary rises or bonuses. They just want you to stay in the same job and not better yourself. They might renew your contract but of course you still don't get the benefits of a permanent contract and you can't plan for the future as you don't have a secure(ish) salary.

There is a lot of work to be done in revamping the whole field of employment. Some employers are very good but others really are the pits and very often the bigger the firm the worse it is.

[Pomme de terre]

Nellie, with respect, I can't help thinking that Jeremy's choice of qualification (a joint social sciences degree) is what puts him at a disadvantage in the workplace locally, as opposed to employers not offering "decent jobs or training". It's a two way street, and a joint social sciences degree is not offering much to employers in Jersey, especially at the present time when large employers' budgets are effectively frozen, due to external world events.

Given that Jeremy's political ambitions are pretty obvious - you state them yourself above - then what right-minded employer would invest in training him this summer, knowing that he had every intention of jumping ship to try to get elected, as soon as the elections came around? I wonder, did he say in any job interviews "My ambition is to be a States Member" ? To many employers, this would have been a bit of a turnoff...

You can't have it both ways: either he tried to find and commit to a job with training this summer, or he has been planning this move since he was 16.

Don't get me wrong: I liked your handbagging of Rankine, and I like how you stick it to the establishment. But I do not think you are doing him any favours by jumping to his defence in cyberspace all the time. Get the real Jeremy on here.

[en830]

He's on a 6 month contract - therefore no training or exams. Typical Jersey investment in youth. The only good thing that will come out of this is a bit of experience and Ogiers will look good on his CV.

Firms don't take people on permanently to avoid training and examination fees and of course you're not eligible for salary rises or bonuses.

They just want you to stay in the same job and not better yourself. They might renew your contract but of course you still don't get the benefits of a permanent contract and you can't plan for the future as you don't have a secure(ish) salary.

There is a lot of work to be done in revamping the whole field of employment. Some employers are very good but others really are the pits and very often the bigger the firm the worse it is.

Sorry Nelly, with claims like this you are starting to do Jeremy harm. If Jeremy was serious about staying in his present role on a permanent basis then I know for a fact that Ogier would offer him the relevant training and career progression.

I also received a message from you asking for me to vote for Jeremy, on the end of which you also asked me to consider voting for Southern as well. If he is aligning him self to southern and his ilk then I will for one will reconsider my intention to vote for him.

As I have said else where on this forum, my wife and I were seriously impressed by Jeremy and what "he" had to say. I am now beginning to have doubts about my first thoughts, because it appears from here that his strings are being pulled.

[The Rev Peter Sarkey]

"They just want you to stay in the same job and not better yourself. "

They also know there are certain things in life which you can't polish - Nellie why don't you have a pop at the HR dept at Ogres - They will surely listen to YOU?

[Eastern correspondent]

I have a BSc Hons degree and am at least twice Jeremys age and I can't get a permanent  job either, Ozouf/ Routier/ Vibert do not have a clue about the real Jersey!

Contracts of employment ensure that staff receive the basic rewards of employment - which is better than nothing -the way the economy is heading it is likely that there will be many more locally qualified unemployed people.

I don't think Jeremy will be able to contribute much if he gets a seat I just want him to upset the apple cart - reform will come and so will a general election day - that should see a decent shake up until then its a case of damage limitation